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5 KPIs That Separate Million-Dollar Firms From Expensive Jobs

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What if the difference between building a million-dollar asset and simply having a job came down to tracking just five numbers?

In this episode of Who’s Really the Boss?, Marcus and Rachel Dillon share the exact metrics that helped them grow DBA from $400,000 to nearly $6 million in revenue. These are the same KPIs they presented to over 200 accounting professionals at Intuit Connect and their Gather conference, backed by real benchmark data from firms ranging from $500,000 to well over $5 million in revenue.

Most accounting firm owners can rattle off their revenue figure without hesitation. It’s the go-to metric when someone asks about the size of your practice. But as the Dillons explain, revenue alone won’t tell you whether you’re building something valuable or just running faster on a hamster wheel.

While you could track dozens of KPIs (Dillon Business Advisors tracks over 20), five metrics form the essential dashboard for any accounting firm owner serious about building value. These numbers measure your business and determine whether you’ll have options when it’s time to step away.

The Five Essential KPIs That Form Your Firm’s Dashboard

Think about the dashboard in your car. As Marcus explains, you could scroll through dozens of gauges showing everything imaginable, but the instruments front and center are the ones critical to getting where you’re going safely. The same principle applies to running an accounting firm.

These five metrics create what Marcus calls a “level playing field” for understanding firm health and value. Let’s break down each one and see how firms in Collective by DBA benchmark data perform.

Gross Revenue (Trailing 12 Months)

This is your speedometer. It’s big, central, and impossible to ignore. The collective average sits at just under $2 million, representing a 10% increase from Spring of 2024.

But Marcus recommends tracking the trailing 12 months, not calendar year. Why? Because that trailing 12 months removes seasonality and shows what investors actually evaluate. “Think about how much has happened at DBA in the last 11 months,” he notes. “We’ve done two acquisitions. We’ve continued to grow Collective. We’ve added different people. It would be very deceiving to only focus on that last calendar year.”

That 10% growth could come from price increases, culling the client list, or organic growth. Revenue alone doesn’t tell you which, but it confirms movement.

Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR) as a Percentage of Gross

The Collective average now sits at 47% MRR, up 2% from Spring. DBA operates at 70% MRR.

“It’s very unlikely that 70% of our business or revenue is not going to show back up next month,” Marcus explains. “That just helps us run a more stable business. It helps cover payroll, rent, technology subscriptions, and all those other expenses.”

A panel at Intuit Connect featuring firm owners who had completed acquisitions delivered a sobering insight. Matthew May from Sorren; Chris Williams, founder of System Six; and Becky Munson, Partner at EisnerAmper confirmed acquirers will buy firms without MRR, but they won’t pay as much for them. 

“Would you rather get a better valuation? Would you rather run a better business by moving them over to monthly recurring? Or would you rather somebody else do that after you sell the firm?” Marcus asks.

Revenue Per FTE

This efficiency metric shows how much revenue each full-time equivalent team member generates. The Collective average is $194,000 per FTE, up 1% from Spring. That means your typical $2 million firm operates with about ten people.

“It’s not so much about finding ways to cut people out of your business,” Rachel says, emphasizing an important point. “It’s more about not having to find that next person when you bring on two more clients or three more clients.”

The goal is moving toward $200,000, then $250,000, and eventually $300,000 as technology enables greater efficiency. But context matters. A firm heavy on bookkeeping won’t look the same as one staffed with tax attorneys billing $500 per hour.

Earnings Before Owner Compensation (EBOC)

This is where profitability gets real. EBOC equals your net profit plus owner salaries and benefits. It creates a true comparison between firms regardless of how owners structure their compensation.

The Collective average sits at 40%, down 1% from spring. For potential buyers, Marcus notes the attractive range is between 35% and 50%.

Why not use EBITDA? 

“EBITDA typically has a value in there for the owner’s role,” Marcus explains. “And if you have a succession event, they will look at EBITDA and beat you up based on the amount you pay yourself.” With a $2 million firm at 40% EBOC generating $800,000, an acquirer might value the owner’s role at $250,000 and calculate EBITDA at $550,000 for valuation purposes.

Even if you plan to give your firm away, “you want to give something other people want. You don’t want the receiver to say thanks, but no thanks,” Rachel points out.

Owner Production Hours

The final metric addresses what many firm owners care about most: their time. The Collective average is 1,152 production hours annually out of a standard 2,080, and that number dropped 12% from Spring.

“That’s not skewed by tax season,” Marcus clarifies. “This is all being pulled trailing 12 months.”

Owners successfully delegated over 10% of their production work while other metrics improved. As Marcus notes, “I know most owners would welcome that decrease in EBOC to work 10% to 12% less year over year.”

How KPIs Influence Each Other

Understanding these metrics is just the beginning. The real insight comes from recognizing how they push and pull against one another.

The Collective data reveals healthy, balanced growth: Revenue up 10%. MRR up 2%. Revenue per FTE up 1%. Owner hours down 12%. EBOC down just 1%.

But Marcus warns about the dangers of optimizing one metric at the expense of others. “What does revenue growth at all costs look like? It’s accepting anything that comes in the door. Probably your owner hours go up, or your costs go up because you have to employ people to do this work that may not be the best work.”

Similarly, you could improve revenue per FTE through mass layoffs. “My revenue per FTE would shoot up because I just have less FTEs,” Marcus explains. “Sure, my EBOC will increase, but my quality of life will probably go down.”

The key is finding balance. Revenue growth while owner hours decrease or hold steady, maintaining EBOC without burning out the team, and MRR creeping upward for predictable cash flow.

A Real-World Example of Pulling the Levers

The Dillons advocate for backward mapping. Start with where you want to go, identify the lever most likely to get you there, estimate costs and risks, then pressure-test results.

DBA tested several levers over the years: price increases, automation, hiring an operations manager, evaluating their client list, monthly recurring packages, and specialized hiring at the director level.

The Price Increase Lever at DBA

In 2024, DBA tackled pricing that had slipped on legacy clients. With an average monthly client at $2,100, they still had several below $1,000, which was unprofitable given their team structure.

They targeted a 14% increase, higher than typical because they’d delayed too long.

“We knew some people were on the bubble, “Marcus says, sharing his thought process. “We knew this would either move them to churn or invest and go deeper with our team.”

The messaging was crucial. “Don’t make the price increase about yourself,” Marcus advises. “No client wants to hear that. You have to have a better value perspective than your costs are increasing.”

Rachel adds that peer networks prove invaluable here. “You can talk yourself out of doing price increases. But in a peer group, you see what other people charge and what other people plan to do for their price increases. You think, ‘Well, I’m doing the same work as they are. Why am I still charging so little?’”

At the Gather event, when asked about planned increases for 2026, most firms indicated 10%, with some going up to 20-25%.

The Results

DBA lost $12,000 in monthly recurring revenue from churned clients but gained a net 4% in total billings while serving fewer clients. Revenue went up. EBOC went up. MRR percentage went up. Revenue per FTE improved. Owner hours decreased.

“You could improve all five of those metrics more than likely by price increases alone,” Marcus concludes.

Rachel emphasizes this wasn’t about pricing out clients. “The goal was to continue to serve them at a price that made sense for the business.” For truly problematic clients, she recommends direct action. “Just have the conversation and help them find a new provider. Don’t keep serving them because they’re paying you.”

Your Next Steps

The Dillons follow an Improvement Season framework:

  • April 16 – August 15: Assess progress and implement changes
  • September – October: Pressure test during higher volume
  • November – December: Reevaluate and adjust
  • January: Launch with refined plan

Some changes show results quickly. For example, price increases make a mark within a quarter. Others, like absorbing a director-level hire, might take a full year.

Marcus emphasizes involving your team. “Do it with your leadership team. Do it with somebody beyond yourself. And then invite others to improve that KPI and celebrate it with others. The cool thing about having a team is to be on a mission together.”

Rachel adds two key questions for listeners:

  • Which KPI do you need to move to increase your firm value?
  • What KPI are you not tracking yet, but you should be?

Whether you plan to sell, pass on, or simply run a better business, these five metrics determine your options. “You will have a succession event in your lifetime because you’re just not going to live forever,” Marcus says. “You’re either going to sell, give it away, or shut it down.”

The choice is yours. But it starts with measuring what matters.

Listen to the full episode for the complete conversation, including more details on implementing these strategies in your firm.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

How a Small-Town CPA Practice Transformed Into a Million-Dollar Firm

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James Buss decided to open a CPA firm on April 1, 2005. Yes, April Fool’s Day, which he now admits was “a bad day to open a CPA firm.” That first year, he had about 50 clients and ended with just $50,000 in revenue. Today, nearly 20 years later, he and his wife Cindy run Buss CPA, a $1.1 million practice from Hartford, South Dakota, a town of 3,000 people just outside Sioux Falls.

In a recent episode of Who’s Really the Boss?, hosts Marcus and Rachel Dillon sat down with James and Cindy to talk about what it’s really like when married couples run accounting firms together. They shared stories of making tough decisions during crises, building systems that take emotion out of business choices, and finding a community of peers who actually share what works.

From Law Enforcement to Million-Dollar Firm

James worked in law enforcement before he became a CPA. He went to school for criminal justice and worked for Minnehaha County for about four years before, as he puts it, he “saw the light.” He’s still an EMT basic and has been a volunteer firefighter since 1995—longer than he’s been a CPA.

This background shapes how he approaches business. Growing up in a family that owned a plumbing and heating business since 1978, James has been around construction his whole life. That’s why today, 70% of his clients are construction companies. He understands their world because he lived in it.

When James opened his firm at 35, he’d already worked in public accounting for about five years and spent two years with a Fortune 500 construction company. But starting from scratch meant building everything from the ground up. About two or three years in, he brought Cindy into the business. As she explains it, she got some advice not to marry a CPA—advice she obviously didn’t take. “Sometimes advice isn’t taken well,” she laughs, “but I think one of the best pieces of advice beyond that is to treat people as you would like to be treated.”

Today, they’re a blended family with six adult children, including one who just graduated with a master’s in social work and another getting married next year who has a master’s in accounting. Between volleyball games and football seasons with the grandkids, they run a firm with four hybrid employees and one remote team member in the Philippines.

When Crisis Forces Change

The 2008 financial crisis changed everything for Buss CPA. James is clear that it was harder than COVID. “In 2008, it was a bumpy ride for companies,” he explains. “We were advising on whether companies should keep their employees, keep a line of business, keep their location, or if they should even stay open.”

During COVID, it was about navigating Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) programs and rules that changed every weekend. In 2008, it was about survival.

After joining a peer group in 2009, James made a radical decision: fire half the clients, let the staff go, and drop back to just himself. The firm was doing a little over $200,000 at the time, which was solid growth from that first $50,000, but the mix wasn’t working.

“We kept what we call now CAS,” James says, noting that the term might be new but the concept isn’t. They also went virtual after their server died, which turned out to be perfect preparation for COVID a decade later. “Going virtual during COVID was nothing new for us. We had been virtual for years.”

The crisis also pushed James to rethink pricing. He remembers pitching his first fixed-fee client around 2009, offering monthly accounting for about $900 instead of a $2,000 to $3,000 spring cleanup bill. The client’s response was, “So my wife won’t have to do this on the weekends?” Deal closed.

James had to abandon hourly billing simply because, “as the software got better, the hours went down. So in theory I’d be doing $50 tax returns now.” When clients push back on fixed pricing, he uses an analogy they understand. “When you bought your truck, did you ask them how many hours it took to put the truck together?”

Today, about 75 of their clients are on fixed-fee contracts, representing 70% to 75% of revenue. They’ve cut their tax-only work from nearly 1,000 returns to about 450, with more staff to handle them.

Taking Emotion Out of the Equation

One smart move Buss CPA made was creating systems that remove owner emotion from critical decisions. James no longer decides which clients to accept. Instead, a committee of two client managers and Cindy makes those calls.

“I don’t know if I can ever get out of this mindset that every client’s a new client. It might be my last one,” James admits. The committee asks questions prospects won’t answer honestly to the owner. They can find out if someone hasn’t filed taxes for four years or doesn’t believe in paying taxes—things they might not tell James directly.

The same approach works for pricing. Their current average monthly fee is about $900, with new clients coming in at $1,000 to $1,500. James is planning a 5% to 7% increase for January 1st, pushed through systematically using Ignition. One client who initially rejected their pricing came back after trying another firm. His comment? “My wife is really mad at me for not taking your fixed-fee contract.” He’ll now pay more than the original quote because, as James notes, “we have something called inflation.”

They also charge onboarding fees of about $1,500, sometimes quoting $2,500 initially then “negotiating” down. “It gives you that buffer for them to feel like when they walked out that they did some negotiation,” James explains, while still covering the 20 minutes it takes staff to set up a sales tax license and other setup work.

Even succession planning gets the emotion-free treatment. Back in 2021, Cindy announced she’d retire in  December 2024. Now she’s taking Wednesdays off and edging toward the door more gradually. “When we get tired, we don’t have to quit. We can rest,” Rachel observed during the conversation. Cindy might stay two more years part-time while they search for the right operations manager. It’s hard to find someone you trust with the books, invoicing, and “all those things near and dear to us that we don’t necessarily want everybody in the world to know.”

Finding Your People

Perhaps the biggest accelerator for the Buss firm’s growth has been community, specifically Collective by DBA, a group of accounting firm owners who share what actually works in their practices.

“I can’t get five accounting firm owners from Sioux Falls together in a room to talk about how we run our businesses,” James says. “Everything’s top secret.”

But in Collective by DBA, he has a Rolodex of people to call with specific questions. Should we use a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) now that we have seven employees? How did you implement fixed-fee pricing? Why is my tech stack so expensive? He couldn’t ask his old firm these questions because they’re still in suits and ties with everyone in the office—not dealing with hybrid teams and virtual infrastructure.

James participates in forums where ten firms take turns being the “focus,” sharing deep challenges and getting candid feedback. When it was his turn, they gave him nine different perspectives on hiring challenges.

He compares it to a military obstacle course. “The community lifts one person up so they can reach to the top of the wall and pull themselves up. Then they can reach down and grab you and pull you up over the wall.”

The results are concrete. James wouldn’t have his team member in the Philippines without community. He wouldn’t charge onboarding fees. “I don’t think we’d be at $1.1 million in revenue if we didn’t have this.”

For Cindy, it’s about more than tactics. “It’s the safe spot to go to. We’ve made great friends through community. Nobody makes you feel bad if you ask kind of a dumb question.”

The Real Secret: Communication

The importance of communication is a recurring theme throughout the conversation. “People don’t remember what you did for them. They remember how they felt,” James says, paraphrasing the poet Maya Angelou.

This belief drives everything from client service to team management. CPAs are notorious for not returning phone calls, but James and Cindy make communication a priority. “All you have to do is communicate with your clients and you’re 80% or more ahead of the game,” James says.

He shared a recent example where he got double-scheduled and missed a call. His message to the team member who made the mistake was clear. “You gotta remember that this person’s not going to remember how I took care of their IRS issue. They’re going to remember that we skipped their telephone call.”

Building Together, Growing Together

After nearly 20 years of working together, James and Cindy have built something remarkable from that risky April Fool’s Day start. They’ve weathered the 2008 crisis, adapted to virtual work before it was necessary, and built systems that let them make better decisions than either could alone.

Their story shows that you don’t need to be in a major market or acquire other firms to build a million-dollar practice. You need the courage to make hard decisions during a crisis, systems that remove emotion from business choices, and a community of peers who’ll share what actually works.

As they look toward the future, with Cindy gradually transitioning toward retirement and James continuing to grow the firm, they’re proof that working with your spouse can work, even in the demanding world of public accounting.

Want to hear more about how James and Cindy navigate working together, including the jokes about age differences and one-room schoolhouses? Listen to the full episode of Who’s Really the Boss? for all the stories, laughs, and wisdom these two couples share about building successful firms with the person you married.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Admitting You Don’t Know Everything Became This Young CPA’s Secret Weapon

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Picture this: You’re 26 years old with a newborn baby, eating rice and beans from a bulk bag because your accounting firm is three months away from bankruptcy. Your Excel budget calculation was catastrophically wrong, and you’re facing the reality that your entrepreneurial dream might be over before it really began.

That’s exactly where Nate Goodman found himself in 2022. He was staring at his wife across their kitchen table in Black Mountain, North Carolina, wondering if they’d bitten off more than they could chew. “I told my wife, ‘We tried it, I failed. We’re gonna have to eat rice and beans,’” Goodman recalls.

Fast-forward to today, and Goodman’s firm, Goodman CPAs, just closed 2024 with $1.7 million in annual revenue. His team of 12 professionals serves clients across the country, and he’s building toward a $2 million run rate.

His transformation from struggling bookkeeper to successful CPA firm owner didn’t happen because he suddenly became a better accountant. It happened because he discovered something many of us resist: admitting you don’t know everything can be your greatest competitive advantage.

In the latest episode of the Who’s Really the Boss? podcast, Goodman shares the raw details of his journey, including the pivotal moments when crisis became his catalyst for growth.

From Churches to CPAs: The Humble Beginning

Goodman’s story doesn’t start with grand business plans or venture capital. It starts with chickens, three young boys (ages 5, 4, and 2), and a simple desire to help churches with their bookkeeping while maintaining work-life balance.

In December 2019, fresh out of his MBA program, Goodman launched what he thought would be a small bookkeeping practice focused on churches. “I have some mentors doing this and only working  20 or 30 hours a week,” he explains.

But a conversation with Jim, an experienced CPA firm owner, changed everything. When Goodman pitched his church bookkeeping idea, Jim asked the hard question: “What are your credentials? Do you have any experience? Do you have any education?”

Goodman had an MBA but admitted to a limited accounting background. Jim’s response was direct: “Well, no one’s going to trust you if you don’t either have education or experience.”

Instead of getting defensive, Goodman chose to be teachable. Within a week, he re-enrolled in school for his accounting certificate so he could sit for the CPA exam. Jim sweetened the deal: complete a tax course, and he’d bring Goodman on as an intern for the 2020 tax season.

The Crisis That Changed Everything

By 2022, things looked promising on the surface. Goodman had purchased Jim’s practice (Jim was 85 at the time) and another practice through owner financing. But underneath, the numbers weren’t adding up.

The problem was embarrassingly simple and devastatingly expensive. Goodman had built his budget in Excel, but made a critical error. “I got the calculation wrong. My shareholder distributions were being added back to the cash,” he explains. “When I figured it out, I was like, oh, we only have like three months left, and we’re not going to make it to next tax season.”

The timing couldn’t have been worse. The CPA he’d hired was asking for more money than the firm simply couldn’t afford. “That was my first time terminating somebody. And that went very poorly,” Goodman admits.

That’s when the rice and beans period began. “We bought the big bulk bag of rice and did that whole thing to make it work,” he says. They were literally living on the most basic provisions while trying to save their struggling business.

But this rock-bottom moment became Goodman’s turning point. Instead of giving up, he finally discovered something that would transform his business: CPA communities and coaching groups.

“I did not even know that CPA communities existed, that there were other CPA owners out there that would share common knowledge. And so I was just going blind through 2022. And that was a very dark year for the business,” he reflects.

The transformation began in August 2022 when he found coaching groups that taught him proper pricing strategies and service delivery models. “I could price a 1040, but to price a CFO engagement or a bookkeeping engagement, I was just shooting from the hip and hoping for the best.”

The Systematic Turnaround

The results were immediate and dramatic. After implementing the new models and pricing strategies, Goodman’s firm grew from roughly $300,000 to $1.2 million in revenue in 2023—a nearly 300% increase in a single year.

Part of this growth came from strategic acquisitions. The acquired practices brought about $150,000 in revenue, and a third acquisition added $275,000. But the real growth came from transforming how they served existing clients.

“We were able to present to them, hey, instead of getting your financials once a year, what if we did your bookkeeping once a month, and you could make some more decisions? And what if we could save you $30,000 in taxes next year, and it’ll cost you a fraction of that, but it’s more than you’re paying now?” Goodman explains.

The firm also benefited from being the only CPA practice in Black Mountain. “We’re the only people here that can provide this service now,” Goodman notes, which helped with client retention during the transition.

Building Systems That Weather Storms (Literally)

By 2024, the firm had grown to 12 team members working in a hybrid model. Some work in the office, others are fully remote, and they even have team members in the Philippines. But their systems faced the ultimate test in September 2024 when Hurricane Helene hit.

“The eye of the storm went through our town,” Goodman explains. “About a 10th of a mile down from our house turned into a lake.” While their community was devastated, with power lines down and infrastructure destroyed, Goodman made a crucial decision.

“We’re like, well, we could take the server, take the networking equipment so people can VPN to the office, and we can set it up at my parents’ house in Roanoke, Virginia,” he recalls. “So we drove to Roanoke, plugged in the server, hooked it up to their internet, and then our team could work from my parents’ living room.”

This wasn’t just crisis management—it showed how the firm’s systems had evolved to handle unexpected challenges. The team maintained operations while their entire region struggled with basic utilities.

The Power of Peer Networks

Goodman’s discovery of peer communities happened almost by accident, but it became a game-changer for his business. During summer 2024, while mowing his lawn and trying to complete CPE requirements, he discovered he could listen to accounting podcasts instead of sitting through webinars.

“A friend of mine told me about Earmark to earn CPE with podcasts. I was like, ‘This is great. Now I don’t have to sit down for like a webinar or something,’” he explains.

That’s when he found the “Who’s Really the Boss?” podcast and heard discussions about fractional CFO services and team structures, and listening to the podcast helped him discover the team structure the firm needed to move toward. 

The remarkable part? His firm had just overhauled its structure two months earlier. But instead of sticking with something that wasn’t working, Goodman brought the new model to his leadership team with complete honesty. A willingness to abandon recent work in favor of proven systems accelerated their growth significantly.

Current Focus and Future Goals

Today, Goodman’s firm operates with metrics and systems that would impress much larger practices. Team members earn performance bonuses based on four specific metrics: maintaining accuracy above 90%, achieving client satisfaction scores of 90% or above, keeping client retention at 90% or above, and completing month-end closes by the 15th.

The firm also specializes in serving direct primary care practices—doctors who’ve left the traditional healthcare system for a subscription-based model. “We really believe in what they’re doing and the model they’re building. So we’re trying to be the great back office so they can focus on patient care,” Goodman explains.

They’ve even hired a dedicated salesperson with a compensation structure of $50,000 base plus 8% on collected revenue and 4% on first-year residuals. It’s a sophisticated operation for a firm that’s only five years old.

The firm’s current focus is on process optimization and AI implementation to help their team work more efficiently. Their goal? A 36-hour workweek with half-day Fridays while maintaining their growth trajectory toward $2.5 million in revenue.

The Lessons That Matter

Looking back, Goodman’s transformation offers clear lessons for other firm owners:

  • Be willing to admit what you don’t know. “I’ve been surprised at how many people are relatively open with what they’re doing and willing and wanting to help you and your development,” he reflects. “And so just asking the question, asking for a virtual coffee has been extremely helpful.”
  • Find your community. The isolation of trying to figure everything out alone nearly destroyed Goodman’s business. Once he found coaching groups and peer networks, his growth accelerated dramatically.
  • Implement proven systems rather than reinventing them. Goodman’s breakthrough came when he stopped trying to create everything from scratch and started following blueprints that other successful firms had already tested.
  • Stay teachable. When Goodman discovered the team-of-three structure just months after reorganizing his firm, he didn’t let pride prevent him from making another change. That flexibility to adapt has been crucial to his success.

At 29 years old, Goodman is quick to acknowledge he still has much to learn. “I love to learn from people who have been here and done that,” he says.

His advice to other young firm owners facing similar challenges is simple: “Don’t stress out so much. It will work out.” But pair that with action: seek mentorship, join communities, and be willing to admit when you need help.

Your Next Step

Goodman’s story offers insights into pricing strategies, team structures, acquisition approaches, and the systems that enabled his dramatic growth. If you’re ready to move beyond struggling alone and start leveraging the collective wisdom of successful practitioners, listen to his full interview on “Who’s Really the Boss?

Sometimes the difference between eating rice and beans and building a multi-million dollar firm isn’t what you know; it’s your willingness to learn from those who’ve already walked the path.

The crisis that could have ended Goodman’s entrepreneurial dreams became the foundation for extraordinary growth. Your current challenges might be setting the stage for your own breakthrough if you’re willing to be teachable enough to find it.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Selling Your Accounting Firm: Misconceptions, Valuations, and Market Realities

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The accounting profession is experiencing a wave of mergers and acquisitions right now, which is forcing firm owners to make tough decisions about their futures. 

In the latest episode of the “Who’s Really the BOSS” podcast, Doug Lewis, the Managing Director at Visionary Group, offered insider insights into accounting firm transactions, drawing from his extensive experience in the field.

Record-Breaking M&A Activity

In 2024, accounting firm transactions set new records, and it looks like 2025 might double those numbers. As Lewis explained:

“2024 was industry-wide across the accounting profession absolutely wild. The pure number volume of transactions that were happening…a lot of people don’t realize how many half-million to $5 million transactions take place almost weekly at this point.”

While big acquisitions by major firms and private equity groups grab headlines, most transactions involve smaller practices that often go unnoticed. This surge in activity is driven by two key factors:

  1. Demographic Reality: The average baby boomer is now in their late 60s, and this generation still owns most accounting practices. Many are discovering that their internal succession plans have either failed or didn’t exist in the first place.
  1. Growth Strategy Shift: Larger accounting firms have increasingly turned to acquisitions as their primary growth strategy. Once firms reach certain revenue levels, relying purely on organic growth simply isn’t enough.

“Once a firm reaches a certain revenue size, it’s extremely difficult to move the growth needle if you’re just focusing on organic growth,” Lewis noted. “The numbers can get staggering on how much new business you have to bring in.”

This creates what Lewis calls a “perfect storm” in the marketplace: Aging owners needing exit strategies are facing off against growth-hungry acquirers who see mergers and acquisitions as their best route to expansion.

Who’s Buying Accounting Firms?

The landscape of potential buyers for accounting firms has changed a lot in recent years. Lewis pointed out three main types of buyers:

  1. Independent Accounting Firms: These firms continue to acquire practices, often opting for equity swaps rather than cash transactions. In many cases, these deals are structured as “mergers,” where the selling partner rolls into the compensation program of the acquiring firm.
  1. Outside Investors: This group includes private equity firms, outsourcing companies, technology firms, and wealth managers who are increasingly getting involved in the accounting space.
  1. Hybrid Firms: These are firms that have already taken on partial or majority private equity investment and are becoming more active in making acquisitions, typically using different transaction structures.

Despite these categories, Lewis emphasizes, “I’ve been a part of hundreds of these things over the years, and I have yet to see two transactions that were ever structured in the exact same format.”

How Firm Valuations Are Changing

It seems like the marketplace is really shifting from revenue-based valuations to EBITDA-based approaches, which align more closely with how other industries operate.

“The overwhelming majority of acquirers are shifting from the multiple of gross revenue down to the multiple of EBITDA, which makes sense because that’s how the majority of other businesses trade,” Lewis explained.

Even with this change, gross revenue multiples still serve as a useful reference point. Lewis noted, “Usually the multiple of gross revenue is always going to hover around that one time mark. Some are significantly higher if it’s a niche profitable practice and some are significantly lower.”

A key consideration in this process is how EBITDA is calculated—especially when it comes to owner compensation. Lewis states, “When we look at EBITDA, the true profitability on a firm, we look at it before any single owner in that company takes home a dime. That’s the starting point.”

This can often lead to tension during negotiations since sellers typically view their compensation as separate from the firm’s profitability, whereas buyers see owner compensation as a cost that needs to be factored in.

Another concept that Lewis brings up is what he calls the “scrape”—essentially the return on investment that buyers require. As Marcus puts it: “If the scrape on a transaction’s 10%, 20%, you have to evaluate this business purchase up against anything else in the market, including just going and sitting that cash in an interest-bearing account.”

Building Value in Your Accounting Firm

If you’re looking to sell your firm or transition ownership, there are some proven strategies that can really boost its value. Lewis identified four key areas to focus on:

1. Develop Your Talent

One of the biggest draws for potential buyers is the talent within your firm. While having younger partners can be a real advantage, Lewis stressed that having strong management at all levels is crucial:

“Young partnership talent is phenomenal to have. But if you have strong managers, that next level director manager level people inside your firm, that’s going to significantly help valuation.”

2. Optimize Your Client Portfolio

Many accounting firms struggle with revenue concentration that goes beyond the classic 80/20 rule:

“It’s not uncommon for us to see more of like a 90/10, 95/5 rule inside accounting firms,” Lewis pointed out.

This means that only a handful of client relationships are driving most of the firm’s value. Lewis shared an eye-opening example: when he asked a seller about their top ten clients, they could only name about five or six and realized they didn’t really know what those clients were trying to accomplish.

Rachel highlighted her own experience: “We were spending a lot of time with very low revenue clients, like multiple touch points on these that spent the least amount with our firm. And it didn’t make any sense.”

3. Review Fee Structures

One of the most effective strategies for increasing your firm’s value is to conduct thorough pricing reviews:

“I’ve yet to really see a firm that has priced themselves out of any market, which is shocking,” Lewis noted.

Despite this insight, many firms hold on to outdated pricing structures that undervalue their services. Lewis recommends that firms “aggressively review your fee structures” and set minimum fee thresholds to get rid of unprofitable client relationships.

4. Highlight Advisory Opportunities

While it may not be realistic for everyone to build strong advisory practices—especially those nearing a transition—Lewis suggests a different route:

“If a firm is a little late in the game to really jump start an advisory department, what they should do is be able to clearly state and identify the advisory revenue opportunities that exist inside their base to a potential buyer.”

Clearly communicating these untapped potential opportunities to potential buyers can significantly boost your firm’s perceived value.

Common Misconceptions When Selling

For firms working on a sale or merger, Lewis says there are two big misconceptions that tend to derail transitions:

  1. Unrealistic valuation expectations often stem from anecdotal information about what other firms received. “When you hear, ‘oh, this firm got a multiple of this’ or ‘private equity wants this in a firm’—yeah, they do, but they want one in a firm that’s 20 times your size,” Lewis explained.
  1. Underestimating transition timelines is another common pitfall. “There are a lot of aging owners out there right now who think that when I’m ready to hang it up, I can just list the thing, sell it, and walk away,” Lewis noted. “Those types of transactions where there is not a relatively extended transition period post-deal—those are becoming less and less commonplace in the market.”

Every Firm Will Face Transition

Lewis’s view is simple: transition is inevitable for every accounting practice.

“Every single firm transacts now. There’s really only three transactions out there. Number one is you’re going to either sell or merge the thing. Number two is you’re going to pull off the internal succession. And number three is you’re going to close your doors.”

This reality completely changes how we should think about firm value. Building value isn’t just something you do when you’re getting ready to sell – these core business principles improve outcomes no matter which path you take.

As Rachel put it: “We need to be doing these things as well if we’re hoping one day that one of our current team members or a future team member is going to want to buy or continue the legacy of our current firms. We need to make them attractive to the people who are working in them as well.”

In today’s red-hot market for accounting firm deals, the winners will be those firms that consistently build value through disciplined business practices instead of waiting until they’re about to transition.

Want to hear more from Doug Lewis? Listen to the episode, and don’t forget to subscribe to “Who’s Really the BOSS” for more insights on building a valuable accounting firm.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

A Fresh Look at Accounting Firm Transitions Puts Quality of Life First 

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In a recent episode of the Who’s Really the Boss? podcast, attorney Sara Sharp joined hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon to discuss the evolving world of accounting firm ownership, legal compliance, and how forward-thinking solutions like phantom equity can help firms thrive. 

Sara, who works almost exclusively with CPAs on practice transitions and day-to-day compliance, sheds light on key issues every firm owner should consider—from multi-state employment laws to IRC Section 7216, which requires tax return preparers to protect clients’ tax return information or face possible criminal prosecution. Sara also discussed how creative ownership structures can bridge the gap between traditional partnerships and the need for modern flexibility.

From Compliance Challenges to Ownership Solutions

Rachel and Marcus initially engaged Sara to revisit the Dillon Business Advisors (DBA) employee handbook, recognizing that multi-state compliance for PTO and other policies was becoming increasingly complex. What started as a routine legal audit soon expanded into a broader conversation: How do small and mid-sized firms protect themselves legally while also planning for the future?

“A lot of people think signing up with a PEO solves everything,” explains Rachel, referencing how DBA initially assumed their Professional Employer Organization would handle compliance. “But we still discovered plenty of state-specific requirements.”

Sara points out that many accounting firms face challenges such as:

  • Multi-state labor laws require unique PTO accrual rules or payout stipulations
  • Contractor vs. employee misclassification can lead to costly fines
  • Sec. 7216 regulations mandate specific client consent forms when outsourcing tax prep or using contractors

Addressing these issues up front, says Sara, frees firms to focus on strategic goals like offering innovative ownership pathways.

Why Traditional Partnerships Feel Precarious

Despite the compliance work, most of Sara’s clients ultimately want guidance on ownership transitions, whether selling to a third party, merging with another practice, or rewarding top team members. She uses “one foot on the boat, one foot on the dock” to describe how many owners attempt to ease out of the business while transferring equity to new partners. This can create a drawn-out process where any sudden shift—divorce, health crisis, or relocation—throws everything off balance.

“You can set up a five-year partnership buy-in plan,” says Sara, “but if something goes wrong in year two, you’ve got a mess on your hands, with partial owners and complicated payouts.”

Phantom Equity: A Modern Alternative

At DBA, Marcus and Rachel wanted to recognize two key team members—Leslie Reeves, CPA and Amy McCarty, MBA—without forcing them to buy into a rapidly appreciating firm. “We’re not just talking about hours and ‘butts in seats,’” Marcus explains. “Leslie and Amy bring strategic value that far exceeds any traditional measure of partner track.”

The solution? A phantom equity plan. Sara helped them design an arrangement wherein these employees receive financial benefits tied to firm performance—just as if they owned a small percentage—but without actual stock in the company. They would still see real economic participation in a potential sale or buyout event.

“We’re going to treat you economically as though you are a 1% owner,” Sara notes, “but you’re not on the cap table. It’s simpler, and if someone leaves, they aren’t stuck with actual shares in the business.”

For Marcus and Rachel, this addresses talent retention—rewarding employees who already act like owners—and risk management: no messy buyouts if life circumstances change.

Evolving Valuations: From 1X Revenue to 8X SDE

Another factor driving new ownership models is how valuations have changed. Sara observes that many accounting firm owners still assume they’ll fetch about 1X gross revenue. Yet private equity, family offices, and younger entrepreneurs increasingly evaluate profitability. Instead of valuing a practice based on gross revenue, they’re basing it on earnings—often 4X to 8X seller discretionary earnings (SDE).

“Now that people realize it’s about cash flow, we see more sophisticated questions,” explains Sara. “Do you have digital relationships with clients? Are you reliant on face-to-face drop-offs? Efficient, profitable, tech-savvy firms can get premium multiples.”

Younger generations of accountants prioritize work-life balance and operational efficiency. They’re less inclined to log 70-hour weeks or maintain a physical office for clients to drop off paper forms. Sara says this cultural shift is clear in her legal practice:

“I’ve got buyers in their 20s and 30s who want to do everything in the cloud, automate workflows, and raise rates so they don’t have to manage thousands of low-margin returns. They’re running the business more cleverly.”

Looking Ahead: Aligning Compliance, Culture, and Ownership

As more firm owners realize they must adapt to multi-state employment, shifting professional values, and new valuation formulas, legal compliance and innovative ownership structures become intertwined. Whether ensuring your employee handbook meets Colorado PTO law or sending out proper Sec. 7216 disclosure forms, or designing phantom equity plans, the best solutions are protective and empowering.

“Firms want to preserve culture, recognize talent, and plan for what’s next,” says Sara. “But you can’t marry that boy just to keep from hurting his feelings,” she quips, invoking her mother’s advice on knowing when to walk away from a bad deal—or a rigid tradition that no longer fits.

By balancing compliance groundwork with creative reward systems, forward-thinking firms can attract and retain top talent, command higher valuations, and sleep peacefully at night, knowing they’ve protected themselves and their employees.

To hear more about Sara Sharp’s legal insights and how DBA structured its phantom equity plan, listen to the full episode of Who’s Really the Boss? podcast.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.