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Why a Smaller Client Base Helped This Firm Accelerate Revenue 

Earmark Team · January 22, 2025 ·

What if growing your accounting firm meant intentionally serving fewer clients? While this strategy may sound counterintuitive, one firm discovered a leaner client roster was the secret to success: they grew from $2 million to $3 million in revenue while reducing their client base from 2,400 clients to just over 100. 

In a recent episode of the Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast, Rachel and Marcus Dillon shared how their firm achieved this transformation over the past seven years. Instead of endlessly pursuing higher client volumes and ever-expanding tech stacks, they prioritized building a scalable infrastructure and preserving a strong culture—an approach that might turn traditional assumptions about firm growth upside down.

Rethinking Growth: Less Can Be More

2017, Dillon Business Advisors brought in an average of $2M annually in revenue from 2,400 tax clients—what many would view as a thriving practice. But despite its profitability, this high-volume model came with challenges. Tax work accounted for 80% of revenue, leading to heavy accounts receivable cycles and intense tax seasons that strained the team and its infrastructure.

In a bold and seemingly paradoxical move, the firm began strategically exiting large blocks of clients. 

“We exited blocks of clients that equated to more than $1 million of revenue,” Marcus explains. “And that growth from $2 million to $3 million while exiting clients was very hard.”

This shift required restructuring leadership, implementing new processes, and thoroughly rethinking client service. Along the way, the Dillons solidified the philosophy that true, lasting growth depends on establishing a solid base first—before taking on new business.

Today, the firm supports about 100 monthly clients and 10 to 15 family groups, generating $3M in revenue, with 75% arriving through monthly recurring revenue. This deliberate, high-value approach replaced the burn-and-churn cycle of their previous volume-focused model.

Building a Scalable Foundation

Armed with lessons from their challenging transition, the Dillons focused on building infrastructure through two main channels: technology consolidation and process refinement.

Streamlining Technology

Instead of adding more applications, the firm focused on maximizing its core technology stack.

“Your client base and where you’re at revenue-wise should drive the processes and the technology you use, not the opposite way around,” says Marcus.

While the average accounting firm might rely on 30 different apps, Dillon Business Advisors consolidated. Rather than deploying specialized reporting tools, they maximized features in their existing software. They also merged communication platforms, moving their phone system to Zoom to unify it with their video conferencing solution.

Perfecting Processes Before Automating

Dillon Business Advisors applied the same philosophy to refining operational processes, especially for onboarding new clients. The firm adopted a “team of three” model—assigning a client service manager, controller, and CFO to guide each client’s onboarding. Before adding automation, they made sure the manual process ran smoothly.

“We had to look at the process and figure out exactly what we needed to solve for,” explains Rachel. “And then we chose the technology to put in that place.”

As a result, the team now completes a full client onboarding—including bookkeeping setup, tax review and proforma, and initial financial reporting—in just two to three weeks, all without sacrificing service quality for existing clients.

Cultivating Culture for Sustainable Growth

Alongside technology and process refinement, the Dillons knew preserving firm culture was vital for sustainable expansion. They introduced two key strategies: creating development paths for existing staff and adopting a culture-first approach to acquisitions.

Developing Internal Leadership

In mid-2024, Dillon Business Advisors launched a Subject Matter Expert (SME) program, enabling employees to grow their leadership skills without changing roles. SMEs receive extra compensation for staying up-to-date on industry changes and mentoring team members in specific areas like payroll, tax, or QuickBooks Online.

“They don’t have to move to a different role within the firm,” Rachel says, “And they don’t have to look outside the firm to work on their leadership development.”

This initiative helped the firm retain top talent while cultivating deep in-house expertise.

Culture-First Acquisitions

Their cultural focus also shapes the firm’s acquisition strategy. Rather than scooping up just any practice, the Dillons specifically target sub-$1 million firms with teams of five or fewer. Cultural alignment, not potential revenue, drives their decisions.

“We definitely want to maintain everything we’ve built at DBA and not dissolve into another brand or another culture,” Marcus adds.

Applying these selective criteria ensures each new addition strengthens rather than dilutes the firm’s carefully nurtured culture.

Conclusion: Build First, Then Grow

Dillon Business Advisors’ evolution from a sprawling 2,400-client roster to a specialized firm illustrates that growth isn’t just about scaling up in size. By consolidating technology, refining processes, and investing in culture, they’ve built a more profitable and resilient business model that runs on monthly recurring revenue rather than seasonal peaks.

For firm owners looking to grow more sustainably, the Dillons recommend building the foundation first. Then, when your people, processes, and technology are in place, growth can happen without the chaos that often accompanies rapid expansion.

For deeper insights into these strategies, listen to the full episode of the Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast. The Dillons share practical, real-world guidance for any firm owner on a growth journey.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Why This Modern Firm Still Tracks Time—and How It’s Boosting Their Success

Earmark Team · November 20, 2024 ·

What if the secret to modern accounting success isn’t abandoning time tracking but reimagining it? Dillon Business Advisors (DBA) discovered that time tracking—separated from billing—is a powerful strategic tool for managing their subscription-based practice.

In a recent episode of the “Who’s Really the BOSS?” podcast, firm leaders Marcus and Rachel Dillon discussed how this traditional practice transformed their modern firm. While many industry thought leaders suggest firms discard time tracking and hourly billing, DBA found that maintaining it—with a crucial twist—provided valuable insights into team management and business growth.

Time Tracking as a Strategic Tool in a Virtual Firm

Traditional firms primarily use time tracking for billing. However, in DBA’s virtual environment, it’s a crucial window into team performance and client profitability.

Marcus explains, “In a virtual environment, it’s hard to wrap my mind around what’s going on. Not that I care how much time is being spent, but it weaves into our project management. It highlights an abnormal month, and then we can discuss what happened.”

Rather than using time data for invoicing, DBA leverages it to gain operational insights—which are especially vital when managing a remote team across multiple client engagements.

When team members feel stressed about particular clients or workloads, time data provides objective evidence to evaluate the situation. Rachel notes, “Often, when there are outside stressors and client requests pulling on you, you may perceive one as your biggest problem over the other, without data to support that.”

Tracking time is also valuable for managing their subscription-based services. The firm regularly compares historical time data against current trends. For instance, “If two months ago it took our team eight hours to complete the engaged work, and now it’s taking 14 hours, is it still the same work, or are there out-of-scope tasks? Has the business increased in volume or complexity?” Data from time logs allows DBA to proactively address scope creep, adjust pricing when necessary, and ensure their team isn’t overwhelmed by expanding client demands.

Combining Manual Oversight with Data Analysis

While many firms aim to fully automate their time data oversight, DBA prefers a manual approach, especially in a virtual environment.

Their monthly review process, which takes Marcus and Rachel around three to four hours, combines tools like Excel pivot tables with human analysis. DBA finds that manual review provides strategic insights that automation might miss.

Rachel explains, “I see it not as invoicing but as clearing out time for write-ups and write-downs. It gives us extra accountability to address issues sooner rather than later. If you’re busy, you might not address out-of-scope issues or potential team burnout as promptly.”

 Marcus agrees, “I need to be looking at this data monthly.”

This intentional review helps the firm quickly identify patterns, recognize potential team burnout, and spot clients needing pricing adjustments—crucial insights they might miss with a fully automated process.

Leveraging Time Data for Strategic Decisions

Time tracking’s strategic value extends beyond daily operations, influencing growth, staffing, and firm valuation decisions.

DBA finds that understanding team capacity through time data helps them manage part-time staff and plan for growth.

For part-time remote team members, time tracking ensures workload balance without compromising quality. Marcus explains, “If a part-time person doesn’t have billable work, they’ll log off, and it’s hard to know—are you willing to give DBA more time, or were you really done?” This led to committing to consistent hours for part-time staff while optimizing their workload using time data.

Time data is also valuable for firm valuation and succession planning. Marcus notes, “Allan Koltin says the most valuable firm is the one with team members and no clients.” He describes a recent M&A event in which “because they had excess capacity, they were more valuable to the buyer—nobody wants to buy overworked and burned-out employees.”

This shifts excess capacity from a cost to a valuable asset, enabling strategic marketing, growth, and succession planning decisions. Whether determining when to “turn on a little bit more marketing” or evaluating pricing for new engagements, time data provides insights for informed decisions on firm growth and future value.

Transforming Traditional Metrics into Strategic Assets

As firms evolve toward value-based pricing, DBA’s experience shows firms can reimagine traditional tools like time tracking for modern practice management.

Viewing time data as a strategic tool rather than a billing metric allows firms to gain essential insights and maintain oversight of team members in a virtual or hybrid environment.

To learn more about transforming traditional metrics into strategic assets, listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the BOSS?” podcast. Marcus and Rachel share additional insights about managing virtual teams, optimizing processes, and building a modern accounting practice that thrives beyond the billable hour.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Struggling to Communicate Your Worth? Revolutionize Your CPA Firm’s Pricing Strategy

Earmark Team · May 10, 2024 ·

Are you tired of wrestling with pricing your services for potential clients? Do you struggle to communicate the value of your accounting services? It’s time to rethink your pricing strategy.

In a recent episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, Rachel and Marcus Dillon, the founders of DBA, share their journey of transforming their pricing model from traditional, transactional pricing to a value-aligned subscription approach. By aligning their pricing with the value they provide to clients, Rachel and Marcus have streamlined client relationships, better communicated their worth, and optimized their practice for growth.

Let’s examine how adopting a value-aligned pricing strategy can benefit your firm. We’ll delve into the process of developing a subscription pricing model, the importance of analyzing internal data and conducting market research, and the benefits of communicating value through transparent pricing.

The Evolution of Pricing at DBA

Like many CPA firms, DBA initially priced their services based on what clients paid their previous CPA, a practice known as “apples-to-apples” pricing. Marcus Dillon explains, “We priced just like every other CPA firm does. And I know if you’re listening to this and you hear what I’m about to say, you’re going to shake your head. Because if you can gain access to their QuickBooks Online account and see what they paid in the past, you’re going to charge them what they’ve at least paid, or a little bit more.”

However, as DBA grew and evolved, they realized that this pricing approach needed to reflect the additional value they provided to their clients. They then shifted to value-based pricing, which aimed to align their fees with the perceived worth of their services. While this was a step in the right direction, it presented challenges. Value-based pricing required individual negotiations with each client, making it difficult to scale the business.

The turning point came when DBA decided to implement a subscription-based pricing model. This approach allowed them to streamline their pricing, remove owners from setting prices for each client, and better communicate the ongoing value they provided. By offering a set of standardized service packages, DBA was able to create a more predictable revenue stream and simplify the client onboarding process.

DBA engaged a consulting group to conduct secret shopping to gather insights and benchmark their pricing. The consulting group reached out to firms similar to DBA, posing as potential clients, and obtained quotes for comparable services. This process provided valuable information on competitor pricing and helped DBA ensure their fees were competitive while still reflecting their unique value proposition.

Developing a Subscription Pricing Model

DBA’s subscription pricing model offers a straightforward approach that benefits the firm and its clients. The model consists of three service plans: Essential, Premier, and Elite, with base prices of $1,500, $2,000, and $3,000 per month, respectively. Marcus explains that these prices are not set in stone: “We do give ourselves a little bit of flexibility in that we could customize that pricing based on complexity of the industry or number of transactions.”

The primary differentiator between the plans is the level of advisory services included. Clients on the Essential plan receive annual CFO meetings, while those on the Premier plan have quarterly meetings, and Elite plan clients benefit from monthly CFO interactions. 

The Benefits of Subscription Pricing

Subscription pricing offers several advantages for both CPA firms and their clients:

  • Predictable revenue: Firms can better forecast their income and plan for growth with a subscription model.
  • Simplified client relationships: By clearly defining the services included in each plan, subscription pricing reduces the need for constant negotiation and scope creep.
  • Improved cash flow: Regular, recurring payments help to smooth out the peaks and valleys often associated with project-based work.
  • Enhanced client retention: Subscription pricing encourages long-term relationships and provides ongoing support and advisory services opportunities.

By adopting a subscription pricing model, CPA firms can create a more stable and scalable business while providing their clients with the clarity and support they need to succeed.

Aligning Pricing with Value

To effectively align pricing with the value provided to clients, DBA conducted a thorough analysis of their internal data and considered their desired profit margins and business goals. This process involved examining write-ups, write-downs, services provided, and team capacity to understand the resources required to serve clients effectively.

Marcus says that DBA worked backward to get to the pricing. He says, “To get to that point and know what we wanted to charge, we reverse-engineered how many clients we wanted to serve on an ongoing basis. And our max limit is 150 client relationships. Beginning with that in mind and knowing the size of the business and the size of the team that we wanted to work with, the amount of profit that we wanted to make – that’s how we started to engineer pricing and make sure it was in line with market and the value we could bring.” 

This process relied on considering their desired profit margins and the size of the business they wanted to build. By setting clear goals and working backward, DBA could create a pricing structure that supported their long-term vision for the firm.

The Importance of Data-Driven Pricing

CPA firms looking to align their pricing with the value they provide should consider the following steps:

  1. Analyze internal data: Examine write-ups, write-downs, services provided, and team capacity to gain a clear picture of the resources required to serve clients effectively.
  2. Set clear goals: Define your desired profit margins and the business size you want to build, and use these goals to guide your pricing decisions.
  3. Conduct market research: Gather data on competitor pricing to ensure that your fees are competitive while still reflecting your unique value proposition. Consider engaging a consulting group to perform secret shopping and obtain quotes for comparable services.
  4. Continuously monitor and adjust: Regularly review your pricing and make adjustments as needed based on market changes, service offerings, and client base.

By taking a data-driven approach to pricing, CPA firms can ensure that their fees accurately reflect the value they provide and support their long-term growth and profitability.

Communicating Value through Pricing

One of the key challenges many CPA firms face is effectively communicating the value of their services to potential clients. This is particularly true for firms offering comprehensive support and advisory services, as clients may not be accustomed to paying for these offerings. As Rachel notes, “When I was conversing with people, they weren’t expecting the price that I would say. A lot of the people that were finding us, either by referral or just Google search, were mostly looking for a tax return and tax savings. They hadn’t experienced someone pricing all of the services that they’re going to need for the entire year, plus one of those services being advisory. So they just weren’t expecting it.”

To address this challenge, DBA decided to publish their pricing on their website. By providing transparency around their fees and the services included in each plan, DBA could better communicate the value they offer and help potential clients understand the comprehensive nature of their support.

Publishing pricing also had the added benefit of streamlining the sales process. By allowing prospects to self-qualify based on their budget and needs, DBA reduced the number of initial conversations with clients who were not a fit for their services. This freed up time and resources to build relationships with clients who were more likely to benefit from their offerings.

Tips for Communicating Value through Pricing

If you’re considering publishing your pricing or looking for ways to communicate the value of your services better, keep the following tips in mind:

  1. Be transparent: Clearly outline the services included in each pricing tier and the value clients can expect to receive.
  2. Highlight the benefits: Focus on the outcomes and results your clients can achieve by working with your firm rather than just the features of your services.
  3. Use case studies and testimonials: Share success stories from past clients to demonstrate the tangible impact of your work.
  4. Offer a range of options: Provide different pricing tiers or service packages to cater to your target market’s diverse needs and budgets.
  5. Be open to customization: While published pricing can be a helpful starting point, be prepared to create custom plans for clients with more complex needs.

Embracing Value-Aligned Pricing for Long-Term Success

By analyzing internal data, considering desired profit margins and business size, and conducting market research, DBA developed a pricing model that communicates the value of their services and supports their long-term growth.

Are you ready to unlock the full potential of your CPA firm? Start by examining your current pricing strategy and identifying opportunities to better align your fees with the value you provide.

To learn more about aligning your pricing strategy with service value, listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast featuring Rachel and Marcus Dillon. Their insights and experiences offer valuable guidance for any CPA firm looking to transform its approach to pricing and increase overall firm value.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, DBA | FIRM, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with free resources, education, and operational strategy.

The Team of Three: How DBA’s Unique Structure Weathered an Unexpected Resignation

Earmark Team · March 26, 2024 ·

Imagine receiving an email from a team member resigning effective immediately. How would your business cope with such an unexpected challenge?

In a recent episode of “Who’s Really the Boss,” Rachel and Marcus Dillon, the owners of DBA, a leading accounting firm, shared their experience of dealing with a team member’s abrupt resignation and the lessons they learned about building a resilient and adaptable team structure.

The Unexpected Resignation

Rachel and Marcus were caught off guard when they received an email from a team member resigning effective immediately, a first in DBA’s 13-year history.

“Any time you get a notice, like resigning effective immediately, you need to think, ‘Okay, something extreme has happened.’ And as a leader, can you do anything to help?” Rachel recalled.

This experience highlighted the importance of having a team structure that can handle unexpected turnover and the need for clear communication and swift action in such situations.

DBA’s Team of Three Model

One of the key factors that helped DBA navigate this challenge was its unique team structure, consisting of a Client Service Manager, Client Controller, and Client CFO.

Marcus explained, “So with that team of three model, there is always overlap. And that’s why we designed it that way. It’s very unlikely that all three people would leave the team at one time. If two people leave the team at one time, that’s drastic.” This model provides built-in redundancy and ensures smooth service delivery, even in the face of unexpected turnover.

The team of three model allowed DBA to redistribute responsibilities and maintain uninterrupted client service quickly. The Client Controller and Client CFO stepped up to initially cover the departing team member’s duties while the company searched for a replacement. This seamless transition demonstrated the resilience and adaptability of DBA’s team structure.

Capacity Planning and Lessons Learned

Proper capacity planning is another crucial aspect of building a resilient and adaptable team. Rachel and Marcus emphasized the importance of maintaining excess capacity to handle unexpected situations and opportunities.

“We’ve learned it the hard way. Whenever you burn out team members – and thankfully, some of those team members that burned out, they’ve stayed on the team. We’ve restructured their role. We restructured their client list to make it more appropriate for balance,” Marcus shared.

Overworking team members can lead to burnout and turnover, undermining the team’s resilience and adaptability. DBA learned this lesson and made conscious efforts to ensure their team members have a healthy work-life balance. They have removed blocks of annual tax clients and avoided filling up the team’s capacity with seasonal work, prioritizing long-term sustainability over short-term profits.

Navigating the Transition

When faced with the unexpected resignation, DBA took immediate action to ensure a smooth transition. They notified the leadership team, reassigned clients and responsibilities, and communicated with affected clients. The company’s well-defined offboarding and onboarding processes were crucial in navigating this challenge.

DBA’s offboarding process involved disconnecting the departing team member’s access to various systems, reassigning email and communication channels, and ensuring a seamless transition for clients. The company’s onboarding process, which includes training new team members on client-specific information and gradually introducing them to clients, allowed for a smooth integration of the replacement team member.

Having a pipeline of candidates and a structured hiring process also contributed to DBA’s ability to fill the vacancy quickly. Within two weeks of the resignation, the company had identified and onboarded a new Client Service Manager, minimizing disruption to client service.

The Importance of a Resilient and Adaptable Team

DBA’s experience highlights the importance of building a resilient and adaptable team structure in today’s fast-paced business environment. Handling unexpected challenges, such as a team member’s abrupt resignation, is crucial for maintaining client trust and ensuring long-term success and sustainability.

A well-designed team model, like DBA’s team of three, provides built-in redundancy and ensures smooth service delivery. Proper capacity planning and a focus on employee well-being contribute to the team’s resilience and adaptability. Well-defined processes for handling transitions, both offboarding and onboarding, allow businesses to navigate challenges smoothly and maintain client confidence.

Building a resilient and adaptable team requires a proactive approach and a commitment to continuous improvement. By learning from experiences like DBA’s unexpected turnover challenge, business owners can develop strategies to strengthen their teams and prepare for the unexpected.

Listen to the full episode of “Who’s Really the Boss” to learn more about how Rachel and Marcus Dillon, with the help of their team, navigated this challenge and the valuable lessons they learned along the way.

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