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The Accounting Podcast

Intuit Pays OpenAI $100 Million While Tech Giants Manipulate Profits Through Creative Depreciation

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Blake Oliver and David Leary are back with The Accounting Podcast after Blake’s bout with what he calls “the worst cold ever” from a Las Vegas conference. Their return episode tackles some major developments in accounting tech, including a massive deal between Intuit and OpenAI that could change how millions interact with their financial data.

AI Adoption Hits a Tipping Point

Blake kicked off the discussion by sharing insights from his recent presentation at the American Society of Cost Segregation Professionals conference. One striking statistic: 55% of US adults have now used generative AI like ChatGPT, up from 45% just a year ago.

“We passed the midpoint,” Blake noted. “The majority of American adults have now used ChatGPT.”

But here’s what should worry accounting professionals: A new survey reported by CPA Practice Advisor found that 10% of adults acted on AI tax guidance within the last 30 days, while 21% followed AI crypto advice. The problem, as Blake warns, is “AI gets complex tax questions wrong up to 50% of the time.”

Intuit Bets Big on OpenAI

The headline news centers on Intuit’s announcement that it will pay OpenAI $100 million per year in a multi-year deal. Soon, ChatGPT users will be able to connect their TurboTax, QuickBooks, Credit Karma, and Mailchimp accounts directly within ChatGPT.

David found this move puzzling given Intuit’s recent behavior: “Intuit just raised prices on developers to pull data from QBO to stop some of these AI plays from sucking all the QBO data. Now it’s the complete opposite. They’re going to pay somebody else to suck that data out.”

According to Intuit’s CFO, the real motivation is customer acquisition. They want to convert OpenAI’s 800 million weekly active users into Intuit customers. Blake sees this as part of a larger trend where ChatGPT becomes “the primary place where you work” by connecting to all your apps and data.

This raises questions for accounting firms. As David wondered aloud, “Are accountants going to panic when clients connect to ChatGPT?” The hosts noted that details about data privacy and whether users need to explicitly authorize these connections remain unclear.

The Two-Minute Rule for AI Accuracy

Blake’s presentation revealed a crucial insight about AI’s current limitations. Through his research, he found that AI can handle tasks with near 100% accuracy, but only if those tasks would take a human about two to five minutes to complete.

“The longer the task, the less accurate it gets,” Blake explained. For example, for tasks taking 30 minutes, accuracy drops to 80%. For two-hour tasks, it’s only 50% accurate. That’s essentially a coin flip.

This has real consequences. According to the survey data Blake cited, 19% of Americans have already lost over $100 following bad AI advice. Yet 27% still believe AI could provide all the financial guidance they need.

One bright spot came from a viewer comment during the live show. An intern at a mid-size firm shared that they spent 10% of their work time using Gen AI and were the only intern offered a permanent position due to superior productivity. “People will be judged against coworkers who are using AI and who are more productive,” David observed.

The good news is that AI’s capabilities are doubling every seven months. “If AI can do tasks with near 100% accuracy that are two minutes long right now, then in seven months it’ll be four, and in 14 months it’ll be eight,” he calculated.

Michael Burry Spots Another “Big Short”

Perhaps the most alarming story involves Michael Burry, the investor and hedge fund manager who famously predicted the 2008 mortgage crisis. His fund is now shorting AI companies like Palantir and Nvidia based on what he sees as widespread accounting manipulation.

The issue is tech giants extending depreciation schedules for their AI infrastructure to make their profits look better. Blake broke down the numbers:

  • Alphabet extended depreciation from three to five years, adding $3 billion to profits
  • Microsoft went from four to six years, gaining $2.7 billion
  • Meta moved from four to five years for a $1.5 billion boost
  • Amazon made similar changes

“Let’s say you have a $10 billion investment in AI chips,” Blake explained. “If your useful life is two years, you’re recognizing $5 billion of expense each year. But if you make that five years, now it’s only $2 billion of expense. That’s a $3 billion difference.”

David drew parallels to the 2008 crisis. “It’s like the Big Short when you roll up these bad loans into a different one. Now it looks good, but it’s really 300 bad loans. It’s totally the Big Short all over again.”

The hosts pointed out that the entire tech industry made these changes starting in 2022, suggesting coordinated “earnings management.” Yet auditors and regulators haven’t pushed back. “If everybody’s doing it, that makes it seem more reasonable,” Blake noted with frustration.

Other Notable Updates

The episode covered several other important developments:

Rippling vs. Deel Drama

New court documents reveal that Deel allegedly paid a corporate spy through the COO’s wife’s bank account. Rippling published bank statements showing the money trail. Deel’s corporate account sent funds to the COO’s wife, who forwarded the exact amount to the alleged spy just 56 seconds later.

Alternative Pathways Progress

New Jersey unexpectedly passed alternative pathways legislation for CPAs. If the Senate approves, it will become the 24th state to offer alternatives to the traditional 150-hour requirement. That’s nearly half the states in just 11 months.

PCAOB Admission

In a surprising interview, the PCAOB’s acting chair revealed that after 20 years, they’ve never formally defined what “audit quality” actually means. Blake couldn’t believe it: “Isn’t that their job?”

Ancient Accounting

In a lighter moment, David shared news about researchers discovering what might be an ancient general ledger in Peru: 5,200 holes arranged in patterns that may represent an accounting system used by the Inca.

Looking Ahead

The accounting profession is in the eye of a perfect storm. Clients trust AI tools despite high error rates, software companies scramble to partner with AI platforms rather than compete, and tech giants manipulate their books to show AI-driven profits that may not materialize.

Blake offers some practical advice for accounting professionals: identify those two-to-five minute tasks where AI excels and use it there. But also prepare to clean up messes from clients who trusted AI with complex questions it can’t reliably answer.

“Good news for tax pros,” Blake concluded with dark humor. “You’re going to be untangling tax messes for years thanks to bad AI tax advice.”

The full episode of The Accounting Podcast includes additional details about these stories and the hosts’ unfiltered analysis of what these trends mean for the profession. As David noted about their nearly broken seven-year weekly recording streak, consistency matters—especially when the industry is changing this fast.

When Auditors Look Away and AI Gets Scammed, Who’s Actually Protecting Investors?

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In a recent episode of The Accounting Podcast, hosts Blake Oliver and David Leary tackle the mounting pressures facing the accounting profession, from private equity’s growing influence to corporate lobbying’s impact on tax policy. As the longest government shutdown in history finally comes to an end, the hosts examine how financial incentives reshape both public accounting and tax preparation services.

Government Shutdown Finally Ending After 40+ Days

The episode opens with news that the government shutdown—now officially the longest in U.S. history at over 40 days—is coming to an end. The shutdown cost the economy approximately $15 billion per week, with 650,000 federal employees furloughed without pay.

“The shutdown got real this weekend,” David notes, describing how his wife’s flight was repeatedly delayed, forcing her to abandon her travel plans. The ripple effects have been substantial: the Small Business Administration couldn’t process $2.5 billion in loans for 4,800 businesses, and 42 million Americans on SNAP received only half their November benefits.

Democrats in the Senate broke ranks to vote with Republicans to reopen the government, though they failed to secure an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies they were seeking. As Blake observes, “It’s a game of chicken. Who’s going to blink first? And Democrats blinked on this.”

The Death of IRS Direct File and Rise of TurboTax Stores

The swift elimination of the IRS Direct File program reveals how corporate influence shapes tax policy. Despite achieving 98% user satisfaction and processing 300,000 returns in its second year (up from 140,000 in year one), the program was axed shortly after Intuit donated $1 million to Trump’s inauguration.

“It really grosses me out,” David says. “Intuit compromised its own values just for the almighty dollar of getting a TurboTax competitor eliminated.” He points out the hypocrisy on both sides. Intuit, one of the first companies to offer same-sex marriage benefits, abandoned its progressive values, while MAGA Republicans embraced a “woke company” once the check cleared.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent dismissed Direct File as underused, claiming “private alternatives are better,” despite it being an unmarked pilot program still expanding its reach. As David notes, even 300,000 electronic returns represents “300,000 paper returns the IRS doesn’t have to touch.”

Meanwhile, Intuit announced plans to open 20 new brick-and-mortar TurboTax stores following an “Apple Store model.” Customers will work on their returns at in-store computers, then seek help from CPAs and EAs when needed, what the hosts imagine as an “EA Bar” instead of Apple’s Genius Bar. Combined with 200 additional TurboTax expert offices, Intuit is positioning itself to dominate every segment of tax preparation.

The First Brands Audit Failure: A $700 Million Warning Sign

The collapse of First Brands under BDO’s watch illustrates the potential consequences when private equity interests intersect with audit responsibilities. BDO signed off on financials showing $5.23 billion in debt in March. Six months later, the company collapsed with $11.63 billion in actual obligations—more than double what was reported.

Bankruptcy lawyers accuse founder Patrick James of inflating invoices by up to 50 times to secure fraudulent financing. One $179 invoice was allegedly inflated to $9,271. Over $700 million allegedly flowed into James’s personal accounts, funding 17 exotic cars, properties in Malibu and the Hamptons, and a $110,000 six-week Southampton hotel stay.

“How could you audit this company and not be aware of this?” Blake asks. “Here’s all this debt. Money came in because of the debt. Where did the cash go?”

The situation is complicated by BDO’s financial relationships. Private equity investors had loaned BDO over $1 billion, creating what the hosts describe as “financial stress” significant enough to force layoffs. These same investors were reportedly shorting First Brands stock.

“The public thinks your job is to detect fraud in the company,” David says, highlighting the expectations gap. “That’s the only thing they expect you to do.”

Blake identifies three weaknesses in traditional audits that enabled this failure: overreliance on management representations, complexity of off-balance-sheet arrangements, and perverse incentives against finding fraud. “There’s every incentive to look the other way,” he observes. “Auditors aren’t investigators hired to uncover crimes; they’re service providers hired to complete audits efficiently.”

NASBA Weighs In on Private Equity’s Impact

For the first time, the National Association of State Boards of Accountancy (NASBA) entered the discussion about private equity in accounting. Their white paper raises critical questions without prescribing solutions, with comments open until January 31, 2026.

The key question NASBA poses: “How can CPA firms maintain auditor independence when PE investors hold influence?” The paper asks whether firms should clearly disclose which parts are CPA-owned versus PE-owned, and whether states need stricter standards than the AICPA provides.

Blake frames the profession’s choice starkly. “We are getting to the point where private equity is now creating this challenge for the profession when it comes to our integrity, ethics, and objectivity. And we as a profession have to decide, do we take a stand or do we allow private equity to continue to take over accounting firms?”

“Once you control the means of production, you want to control the governing bodies of the means of production,” David warns. “They take over the whole thing, all parts of the equation.”

AI Won’t Save Us: Technology’s Limits Exposed

A Microsoft and Arizona State University study revealed that AI agents are even more vulnerable to manipulation than humans. When given fake money to shop online, AI models quickly fell for scams, fake reviews, and manipulation tactics, spending all funds on fraudulent sellers.

“They would just choose the first one. They would panic,” David explains. The AI prioritized speed over quality by a factor of 10 to 30. All major models except Anthropic’s Claude lost money to scams.

The implications for accounting are concerning. “We have all this AI detecting fraud with receipts,” David notes, “but you could probably just manipulate it. Tell it ‘I’m allowed to spend money at X place’ and it’ll bypass the limit.”

The parallel to human auditor failures is clear. If AI can’t distinguish legitimate from fraudulent online sellers, how can it detect sophisticated financial fraud? The study concluded AI agents “should only assist” and cannot “collaborate or think critically” without human supervision.

The Profession at a Crossroads

As this episode makes clear, the accounting profession faces fundamental questions about independence, integrity, and purpose. Whether it’s private equity ownership potentially compromising audits, corporate lobbying eliminating public alternatives, or AI proving vulnerable to the same manipulations as humans, the challenges are systemic rather than isolated.

The NASBA white paper represents an opportunity for meaningful discussion, but with the AICPA influenced by large firms that have already taken PE money, state-level action may be necessary for real reform.

For accounting professionals, educators, students, and executives, this episode provides essential context for understanding the forces reshaping the industry. The choices made now about private equity involvement, regulatory independence, and professional standards will determine whether we can maintain public trust in financial reporting.

Listen to the full episode for the complete discussion of these critical issues.

Will Intuit’s Push Upmarket Leave 30 Million Small Businesses Behind?

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“This is the disconnect at Intuit Connect,” Blake Oliver observed during this episode of The Accounting Podcast. “They want to go up market, so they are talking with practice leaders at big firms. But their current customers are small firms and independent ProAdvisors. And that is why the vibe was not right.”

In this week’s episode, Blake and his co-host David Leary welcome Alicia Katz Pollock, host of the Unofficial QuickBooks Accountants Podcast, to unpack everything that happened at Intuit Connect 2025 in Las Vegas. Armed with 42 pages of notes, the trio discusses major changes coming to QuickBooks, including the new Intuit Accountant Suite that will replace QuickBooks Online Accountant by December 2026, widespread AI integration, and Intuit’s push to become an all-in-one platform competing with enterprise solutions.

A Conference Transformed

The atmosphere at Intuit Connect told the story before any keynote began. Alicia, who has attended every conference since its QuickBooks Connect days, noticed the dramatic shift immediately. “There were only a few dozen of us,” she said, referring to independent ProAdvisors who once filled the conference halls. Instead, she met “tons of first time attendees who were all employees at firms.”

David, who spent years at Intuit building the QuickBooks marketplace, remembered when the conference was “a celebration of accountants, bookkeepers and small businesses.” The company would display lists of ProAdvisors who’d been with them for years and give out ProAdvisor of the Year awards. “You used to get the chills because you’re like, I love all these people,” he recalled. “And now it’s like all about Intuit.”

Even the conference exit changed from cheerleaders with pom-poms to a drum corps, signaling a shift from celebration to something more corporate and impersonal. As Alicia put it, “They used to treat us like kings. This was much more about professional upskilling, like a normal conference.”

AI Everywhere—But Does It Work?

Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi’s keynote made the company’s direction clear. Seven years ago, they “bet the farm on AI,” and now the entire platform is moving in that direction. The promise sounds revolutionary: AI agents handling routine bookkeeping tasks, smart categorization, and automated workflows. The reality, according to users and the hosts, tells a different story.

David’s experience captures the frustration many feel. “Every time I go to the bank feed screen, my list of pending transactions just keeps going up,” he explained. Despite the promised AI agents, his unmatched transaction numbers keep climbing. “Nobody’s doing the work,” he said. To clear transactions, he had to manually fix broken connections from Expensify and reorganize how transactions were coded—exactly the kind of work AI was supposed to eliminate.

The hosts read a detailed email from a listener who outlined five critical problems with the forced AI rollout: miscategorized transactions, inaccurate reporting, bank feed errors creating double entries, a slower interface requiring more clicks, and most importantly, no ability to opt out. “I can’t get over my anger and frustration with this forced rollout,” she wrote, noting that she’s lost hours to troubleshooting instead of doing strategic work.

Alicia offered a more measured perspective, explaining that AI “still has to be trained” and needs to learn from each company’s specific patterns. “You have to give it one of everything,” she said, suggesting it might take “a quarter of data and probably a year” before the AI becomes accurate.

But David pushed back on this defense. “Intuit just spent $1 million on a conference and talked about how magical this is. Nobody said I need to train the agents. The marketing says it’s just going to do it.”

Blake offered a technical critique that cut to the heart of the problem. “AI is statistical and probabilistic and is not 100%,” he explained. Rather than replacing reliable rules with unpredictable AI, Intuit should “automate the creation of rules” that work accurately every time. He pointed to competitors like Ramp that use AI to create rules rather than replace them entirely.

The All-in-One Platform Play

Beyond AI, Intuit is transforming QuickBooks from an accounting platform that integrates with hundreds of apps into an all-in-one solution that does everything internally. The new features include integrated Mailchimp functionality, CRM tools, customer surveys, appointment booking, and marketing campaigns, all within QuickBooks.

During his keynote, Goodarzi made the strategy explicit: “You’ll pay less because you’ll need to pay for fewer apps.” This message, delivered while 75-80 third-party app vendors were exhibiting at the conference, created what David described as a “weird vibe.”

The hosts compared this approach to a multifunction printer. As Alicia explained, while it can print, copy, scan, and fax, “you’re not going to be able to put out a poster that you can put up on the wall.” Similarly, QuickBooks might do “a little bit of everything,” but businesses needing robust, specialized solutions may find themselves limited.

Blake expressed deeper concerns about this strategic shift. Having built a successful firm by combining specialized apps, he worries about the implications. “I know what happens when an app tries to do everything. It does everything, but it does it in kind of a mediocre way.”

The New Intuit Accountant Suite

One of the biggest announcements affects accountants directly: QuickBooks Online Accountant (QBOA) will be replaced by the Intuit Accountant Suite (IAS) by December 2026. 

The new suite will have three tiers. The free version will include all existing QBOA functionality. Two paid tiers (Core and Accelerate) will add new features like customizable dashboards showing KPIs across all clients, books review capabilities that let accountants fix issues without entering individual client files, and capacity management tools for firms.

“For the first year it’s going to be free because they have to develop it and design it and see if we like it,” Alicia explained. After that, some features will require payment.

The capacity management feature revealed another strategic shift. When firms reach capacity, the system will suggest hiring an “Intuit expert” or assigning clients to QuickBooks Live. As David observed, this essentially positions independent ProAdvisors as “labor for these bigger firms”—a fundamental change in how Intuit views its ProAdvisor community.

The Upmarket Push and Its Risks

The hosts identified a fundamental strategic risk in Intuit’s approach. By chasing an estimated 100,000 businesses that might need enterprise features, Intuit could leave “its flank exposed” to competitors targeting the tens of millions of small businesses needing simple, affordable solutions.

Evidence of this vulnerability is already emerging. Quicken, which Intuit spun off years ago, now offers business features for just $8 per month, compared to QuickBooks’ Simple Start at $38 monthly. New players like Digits offer free APIs to attract developers that Intuit’s ecosystem changes might alienate. Personal finance apps like Monarch Money are adding business features to capture the entry-level market.

“There are tens of millions of small businesses that don’t need enterprise features,” Blake argued. He shared how his firm succeeded by serving the low end of the market with streamlined, automated services at a few hundred dollars per month. “Sometimes it’s better not to try and compete with everybody in the same small pool and go to that bigger one that’s underserved.”

Alicia used a metaphor to describe the risk. Intuit has evolved from “a table with a single post in the middle of QuickBooks” to one with four legs including TurboTax, Mailchimp, and Credit Karma. But the QuickBooks leg was built on small businesses and their bookkeepers. “If that table leg collapses, the table’s going to fall over.”

Looking Forward

Despite the criticism, some developments show promise. Alicia highlighted genuinely useful features in development, including AI that considers industry context when categorizing transactions and dashboards that surface anomalies in client data. Intuit is also working on allowing users to create custom dashboard widgets using low-code tools, though David questioned whether this solves real business problems or just provides “fancier reporting.”

The conversation revealed a company at a crossroads. As Blake summarized, Intuit is building for “users who don’t yet exist while alienating those who made them successful.” The question is, as AI transforms accounting, will Intuit remember who they’re transforming it for?

For accounting professionals, whether these QuickBooks changes represent progress or problems depends largely on your firm’s size, client base, and willingness to adapt to Intuit’s vision of the future.

Listen to the full episode of The Accounting Podcast to hear all the details about product updates, pricing changes, and what these shifts mean for your practice. The conversation between three industry veterans who’ve watched QuickBooks evolve for over two decades offers warnings and opportunities for those paying attention.

The Private Equity Takeover of Accounting Firms Creates a New Independence Crisis

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When BDO threatened to sue a one-person blog for questioning its independence, it sparked a conversation about private equity’s growing influence in accounting. In this episode of The Accounting Podcast, hosts Blake Oliver and David Leary discuss this controversy along with Trump’s costly tariff policies, the profession’s hiring challenges, and a Hollywood accounting scandal.

The BDO-Going Concern Dispute

The accounting world is buzzing about BDO’s cease-and-desist letter to Going Concern, a one-person blog run by Adrienne Gonzalez. The dispute started when Going Concern’s Monday morning news brief linked to Bloomberg’s reporting about BDO cutting jobs while managing its debt to Apollo Global Management.

Here’s what happened: BDO took on $1.3 billion in debt from Apollo at 9% interest to fund an employee stock ownership plan. Apollo was also shorting First Brands Group, a company BDO was auditing. When First Brands suddenly collapsed without BDO issuing a going concern warning, Apollo made money on its short position.

Going Concern embedded a tweet connecting these dots, and BDO responded with legal threats demanding a retraction. Blake pointed out the irony: “You do this and now we’re talking about it. We wouldn’t have talked about it again this week. It was last week’s story. It became news again this week.”

The core issue isn’t whether BDO did anything wrong—there’s no evidence they did. It’s about appearance. As Blake explained, “You have to be independent in both fact and appearance. BDO may be independent in fact, but are they in appearance?” When your auditor owes money to a firm that’s betting against your audit clients, questions naturally arise.

Private Equity’s Rapid Expansion

The BDO situation reflects a broader trend that’s transforming the accounting profession. Since 2021, 24 of the top 100 U.S. accounting firms have taken private equity money. Even Crowe, which publicly rejected PE investment for years, is now hiring investment banks to explore selling a stake.

David warned about the pace of change. “When things are going too fast, people are not making sound decisions.” He pointed to the Citrin Cooperman deal as an example of potential conflicts. The PE firm that invested in them owns music catalogs, while Citrin Cooperman specializes in valuing music catalogs. A music industry blog picked up on this potential conflict, leading David to observe, “If somebody in the music industry is recognizing there might be independence issues, it’s a problem.”

Adding to the irony, BDO Global is now telling member firms to avoid taking external equity investments to preserve “independence and sustainable future,” even while BDO US remains tied to Apollo.

Trump’s Tariff Troubles

While accounting firms grapple with independence, businesses are dealing with expensive new trade policies. The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear arguments on whether Trump’s tariffs amount to an illegal $3 trillion tax on Americans. Lower courts have already ruled Trump exceeded his authority by imposing 10-50% tariffs through emergency declarations.

The real-world impact is already visible. Retail prices jumped 4.9% above pre-tariff trends in eight months. Coffee and tea prices rose 7.5%, while apparel increased nearly 9%. Both imported and domestic goods are getting more expensive, as domestic producers raise prices when foreign competition becomes costlier.

Small businesses face particular challenges beyond just higher costs. Blake shared a quote from David Zampierin, owner of Zamp Racing, a company that makes racing equipment. “I’ve been doing this for 40 years and it’s never been this complicated,” Zampierin told Accounting Today. Companies now spend hours on simple import documentation, and if businesses can’t prove where aluminum originated, customs assumes it’s Russian and charges a 200% tariff.

The Profession’s Mixed Signals

Despite these challenges, accounting firms remain optimistic about hiring. According to an AICPA survey, 75% of firms that hired in 2024 plan to maintain or increase hiring this year. However, they’re recruiting from a shrinking pool. Accounting graduates dropped 6.6% to just 55,000 students, with master’s programs declining 15%.

There’s a bright spot: accounting enrollment has surged 12% for two straight semesters, suggesting the pipeline might be recovering. But the profession’s image problem persists. U.S. News & World Report ranked accounting 90th out of 100 best jobs, with a median salary just under $80,000. The profession scored poorly on future prospects (4.3 out of 10) and work-life balance (5.1 out of 10).

The traditional career path is also changing. Only 38% of graduates now start in public accounting, down from 55% in 2014. Blake predicts this shift will continue. “Most accounting grads go into private industry, but we need experienced people in public accounting to do audits.”

Technology Updates

On the technology front, firms are embracing AI despite implementation challenges. AI adoption in audit jumped from 8% to 21% in one year, with early adopters reporting up to 40% productivity gains. However, most companies remain stuck in what researchers call the “middle maturity trap,” investing heavily but struggling with execution.

Several platforms announced updates. Keeper is rebranding to Double after settling a lawsuit over the name. BILL is partnering with NetSuite and Acumatica for embedded bill pay, though they’re also cutting 140 employees (6% of workforce). Canopy launched AI-powered client intake that predicts needed documents and auto-fills known information.

A Hollywood Fraud Scandal

In fraud news, a Los Angeles film production accountant was charged with embezzling nearly $2 million. Joshua Mandel, owner, CEO, and CFO of First J Productions, moved funds between productions to hide his theft, funneling money through an account he named “Fun Fun Fun.” He spent the money on Vegas trips and payments to adult film performers he met online. He faces up to 20 years per count if convicted.

Looking Ahead

Can firms maintain independence while taking private equity money? Will traditional safeguards survive this ownership transformation? As David warned, “We’re probably going to have another Enron here. We’re going to have an Arthur Anderson issue eventually.”

Blake emphasized what’s at stake: “The integrity of auditors is all that’s holding up our financial system.” With nearly a quarter of top firms now tied to private equity and more joining weekly, the profession must figure out how to preserve independence in this new reality.

The BDO/Going Concern dispute may seem like a small skirmish, but it represents a larger battle over accounting’s soul. When firms owe money to companies betting against their audit clients, when ownership structures become too complex to untangle, and when legal threats replace transparency, the profession’s core value—independence—comes into question.

Listen to the full episode to hear Blake and David’s analysis of these stories and more, recorded live from Intuit Connect in Las Vegas.

Your CPA Exam Scores Might Be Lost and Your AI Bookkeeper Is 57% Accurate

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“No kings means no paychecks, no paychecks, no government.” When Treasury Secretary nominee Scott Bessent dropped this line in a Fox News interview, Blake Oliver and David Leary weren’t sure if they should laugh or be terrified. As David put it: “That’s the most un-American thing anybody could say.”

In episode 458 of The Accounting Podcast, Blake and David dig into a series of accountability failures that would be funny if they weren’t so serious. From the Trump administration creating a brand new IRS “CEO” position to dodge Senate confirmation, to NASBA somehow losing track of CPA exam scores, the organizations supposed to maintain standards can’t even maintain their own data.

The IRS Gets a CEO (Because Who Needs the Constitution?)

The Trump administration’s latest move isn’t subtle. It created a new “CEO” position for the IRS that doesn’t require Senate confirmation. As Blake explains, “If the president just creates a new role that has the same responsibilities but doesn’t get checked by the Senate, then that’s just a run around the rules.”

The plan goes deeper than personnel changes. Gary Shapley, an advisor to Treasury Secretary nominee Scott Bessent, wants to weaken IRS lawyers’ involvement in criminal investigations and eliminate extra procedural steps for sensitive cases involving elected officials and tax-exempt groups. These aren’t reforms—they’re removing the safety rails.

“Where’s the AICPA on this?” David asks. The AICPA wrote a letter about the government shutdown’s impact on taxpayers but stayed silent on bypassing Congress to appoint IRS leadership. Blake doesn’t mince words: “They don’t. They are not willing to take a stand on something that matters because they’re afraid of political blowback.”

According to Wall Street Journal reporting that Blake and David discuss, Shapely has already compiled a hit list. The targets? George Soros and affiliated organizations, major Democratic donors, and left-leaning nonprofit groups.

The hosts make an important point that transcends politics. “The Obama administration targeted right wing groups,” Blake notes, agreeing with a viewer comment. “This is why you don’t want to give the government too much power. The other side gets the gun eventually, then points it at the other side.”

When Accounting Organizations Can’t Do Accounting

If you think government accountability is bad, wait until you hear about the profession’s own organizations.

Professor Joseph Ugrin, who creates the CPA Success Index published by Accounting Today, discovered NASBA’s 2024 data is essentially garbage. Between 25% and 40% of candidate scores are simply missing. Plus, Iowa community colleges appear in the data despite state law requiring bachelor’s degrees to sit for the exam.

“NASBA has access to all the transcripts submitted by the candidates,” Blake points out. “So there’s no reason why they couldn’t correctly classify what schools they went to.”

David speculates, “This smells like somebody at NASBA tried to use AI to summarize some stuff and screwed it up.” Whether it’s AI or old-fashioned incompetence, Ugrin can’t publish the Success Index this year because the data is unusable.

Meanwhile, the Chicago Teachers Union hasn’t released required financial audits for over five years, despite paying $80,000 for audit services in 2025 alone. When members finally got federal filings, they showed only 18% of spending goes to representing teachers. The other 82%? Overhead, politics, and “leadership priorities.”

As David asks incredulously: “How did it go past one year?”

The issue isn’t confined to Chicago. Forty-three Arkansas cities can’t get state funds because they can’t find CPAs to do required audits. “The auditors are retiring. They’re not being replaced,” Blake explains. Small-town America is literally running out of accountants.

AI to the Rescue! (Just Kidding, It’s 57% Accurate)

While real problems go unsolved, the profession is being sold AI magic beans.

One marketing CEO’s experience with QuickBooks’ new AI features reads like a horror story. “Although trained on transactions, QuickBooks frequently miscategorized payments based solely on dollar value,” he wrote. If a vendor sent one $1,000 invoice, the AI recorded all future invoices as $1,000. Contractor payments were recorded under “QuickBooks payments” instead of the contractor’s name. The company spent thousands on accountants trying to fix problems that couldn’t be fixed.

“QuickBooks sits at the heart of our business,” the CEO explained. “When AI upgrades destabilize that core, the consequences ripple across the organization.”

The hosts shared another headline that calls AI’s accuracy into question. Microsoft’s AI agent in Excel achieves 57.2% accuracy on spreadsheet benchmarks. As Blake says: “57.2% accuracy is not going to cut it. Not even 98% accuracy is going to cut it.”

Yet companies like Docyt claim AI will let one accountant manage 300 clients. The hosts’ response? “I’ve talked to firm owners that are super efficient,” David says. “Their best bookkeepers maybe handle 45 clients a month.”

Blake’s experience backs this up: “A typical bookkeeper could do 20 to 30 on average. And my all star could do 40 to 60.” The idea of 300 clients per person? “You would have too many questions coming in emails,” Blake explains. “I don’t think there’s an AI tool that can do that.”

Blake’s ideal practice would have ten outsourced controller clients, meeting weekly with each. “Once I got the ten clients, I could probably do it in four hours a day.” That’s realistic. Managing 300 clients with AI? That’s fantasy.

The hosts haven’t seen AI actually eliminating jobs. “I have yet to talk to an accountant that says, oh, we implemented this thing and now we got rid of two of my staff,” David states. Even at their own company, which uses AI extensively: “We’re not getting rid of anybody. We just hired more engineers.”

The $300 Trillion Oops

Just when you thought it couldn’t get wilder, David shares the stablecoin story that should terrify everyone.

Paxos, which provides stablecoin infrastructure for PayPal, accidentally minted $300 trillion in stablecoins. Not million. Not billion. Trillion. For context, the US deficit is $2 trillion.

“You understand how a stablecoin works in theory.” David says. “A dollar goes in, you get a stablecoin worth a dollar back. What if I told you none of that is true?”

The company claimed it was a “technical error that briefly appeared for 20 minutes,” then they “burned” the excess tokens. But as David points out, if companies can just create and destroy them at will, this proves stablecoins aren’t actually backed by dollars.

This matters because Ripple just bought a treasury management firm for $1 billion, putting cryptocurrency at the center of corporate cash management. “Accountants are going to be touching this stuff,” David warns. “It’s going to be here next year.”

Time to Pay Attention

This episode of The Accounting Podcast is a reality check for a profession facing multiple crises simultaneously. The IRS is being restructured to avoid constitutional oversight. Professional organizations can’t maintain basic data integrity. AI is being forced on businesses with disastrous results. And small towns can’t find CPAs to do basic audits.

“We don’t need a king,” David emphasizes about Bessent’s comments. But between government overreach, organizational incompetence, and technological snake oil, the profession is being pulled in all the wrong directions.

The hosts’ frustration is justified. When Blake asks why the AICPA won’t stand up for constitutional principles, when David wonders how organizations go years without audits, when they both laugh at the idea of one person managing 300 clients, they’re asking the questions the profession should be asking itself.

Listen to the full episode to hear Blake and David’s complete breakdown of these interconnected failures. In a profession built on trust and verification, their willingness to be brutally honest is exactly what’s needed.