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Who's Really the Boss

Earn free CPE for listening to “Who’s Really the BOSS”

Blake Oliver · May 9, 2024 ·

Join me in welcoming the “Who’s Really the BOSS?” show to the Earmark app. Earn free CPE listening!

This podcast by Marcus Dillon, CPA, and Rachel Dillon highlights the joys and challenges of running a CPA firm with your spouse.

In the first course, “The Secret to a Successful Accounting Firm,” Bruce D. Berndt, CPA, CGMA, shares his top two pieces of advice for building a thriving firm focused on exceptional client service and a positive team culture.

In this episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss?” podcast, hosts Marcus and Rachel Dillon dive into a powerful framework for making strategic business decisions. By consistently asking two key questions – “Does this simplify my life?” and “Does this increase the value of my business?” – CPA firm owners can cut through the noise and focus on opportunities that will truly move the needle for their firms and their lives.

Introducing the Two-Question Framework

Marcus introduces the two key questions that form the foundation of the decision-making framework: 

  1. Does this make my life easier? and 
  2. Does this increase the value of my business?

The questions are meant to be widely applicable to various life and business decisions. Rachel refines the first question from “Does this make my life easier?” to “Does this simplify my life?” to emphasize the importance of long-term simplicity over short-term ease.

Applying the Framework to New Client Prospects

Rachel and Marcus discuss how the two-question framework can guide the evaluation of new client opportunities.

First, ask, “Does this make my life easier?” In other words, can the work be delegated across the team, or does it rely solely on the owner?

“We would only bring on prospects as clients if they were going to be served by a team approach, where any one person isn’t the full service provider for that client,” Marcus emphasizes.

Then, ask, “Does this increase the value of my business?” When considering taking on a new client, that question could become, “Is the engagement a profitable long-term relationship or a one-off project?”

By applying the two-question framework, CPA firms can focus on clients that will simplify operations and contribute to long-term firm value.

Using the Framework for Software Investments

The two-question framework can also help cut through the hype around new software and determine if it will truly add value to the firm.

Marcus and Rachel discuss their experience of moving away from over-engineered reporting tools that clients didn’t value and focusing time on client conversations instead. They highlight the importance of considering the ongoing support and future team’s ability to use the software.

Regarding the latest trend, AI chatbots, Marcus says, “I am not on the forefront of use of AI. I am not an early adopter, but I’m an adopter somewhere in that cycle. The reason why is I just don’t have enough time in the day, or I don’t enjoy investigating the use of AI in multiple different ways. That doesn’t give me joy. That doesn’t simplify my life.”

The framework helps firms invest in technology to streamline operations and enhance client service rather than chasing shiny objects.

Evaluating Potential New Service Lines

In the episode, Rachel challenges Marcus to apply the two-question framework to adding wealth management as a new service line.

While adding a new service line could increase firm value, Marcus notes that it may not simplify operations in the short term due to the learning curve and client acquisition needs. He emphasizes assessing if a new service line aligns with the firm’s overall strategy and client base.

“If I’m going to add wealth management, does that make my life simpler? Probably not in the beginning because we would maybe have to go out and acquire a different type of client,” Marcus explains.

The two-question framework brings rigor and structure to evaluating any potential new service offering, ensuring strategic fit and long-term value.

Embracing the Power of “No”

Of course, using this framework also means being willing to say “no” to opportunities that don’t pass the test. This can be challenging, especially in the early stages of building a firm when every client and every dollar of revenue feels crucial.

However, as Marcus and Rachel’s experiences illustrate, learning to say “no” to the wrong opportunities is just as important as saying “yes” to the right ones. By being selective and strategic, you can free up time and resources to focus on the clients, projects, and initiatives that will truly move the needle for your firm and your life.

A Roadmap for Strategic Growth

At the end of the day, the two-question framework is a powerful tool for CPA firm owners who want to build businesses that not only thrive financially but also support the lifestyle and well-being of their leaders.

By consistently asking, “Does this simplify my life?” and “Does this increase the value of my business?” you can cut through the noise of endless opportunities and make strategic decisions with clarity and confidence.

So the next time you’re faced with a shiny new prospect, a cutting-edge software tool, or a potential new service line, take a step back and put it to the test. Your future self – and your future firm – will thank you.

For more insights on navigating the challenges of running a CPA firm, listen to the full episode of “Who’s Really the Boss?” and subscribe to the podcast for future valuable discussions.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, DBA | FIRM, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with free resources and education.

The Team of Three: How DBA’s Unique Structure Weathered an Unexpected Resignation

Earmark Team · March 26, 2024 ·

Imagine receiving an email from a team member resigning effective immediately. How would your business cope with such an unexpected challenge?

In a recent episode of “Who’s Really the Boss,” Rachel and Marcus Dillon, the owners of DBA, a leading accounting firm, shared their experience of dealing with a team member’s abrupt resignation and the lessons they learned about building a resilient and adaptable team structure.

The Unexpected Resignation

Rachel and Marcus were caught off guard when they received an email from a team member resigning effective immediately, a first in DBA’s 13-year history.

“Any time you get a notice, like resigning effective immediately, you need to think, ‘Okay, something extreme has happened.’ And as a leader, can you do anything to help?” Rachel recalled.

This experience highlighted the importance of having a team structure that can handle unexpected turnover and the need for clear communication and swift action in such situations.

DBA’s Team of Three Model

One of the key factors that helped DBA navigate this challenge was its unique team structure, consisting of a Client Service Manager, Client Controller, and Client CFO.

Marcus explained, “So with that team of three model, there is always overlap. And that’s why we designed it that way. It’s very unlikely that all three people would leave the team at one time. If two people leave the team at one time, that’s drastic.” This model provides built-in redundancy and ensures smooth service delivery, even in the face of unexpected turnover.

The team of three model allowed DBA to redistribute responsibilities and maintain uninterrupted client service quickly. The Client Controller and Client CFO stepped up to initially cover the departing team member’s duties while the company searched for a replacement. This seamless transition demonstrated the resilience and adaptability of DBA’s team structure.

Capacity Planning and Lessons Learned

Proper capacity planning is another crucial aspect of building a resilient and adaptable team. Rachel and Marcus emphasized the importance of maintaining excess capacity to handle unexpected situations and opportunities.

“We’ve learned it the hard way. Whenever you burn out team members – and thankfully, some of those team members that burned out, they’ve stayed on the team. We’ve restructured their role. We restructured their client list to make it more appropriate for balance,” Marcus shared.

Overworking team members can lead to burnout and turnover, undermining the team’s resilience and adaptability. DBA learned this lesson and made conscious efforts to ensure their team members have a healthy work-life balance. They have removed blocks of annual tax clients and avoided filling up the team’s capacity with seasonal work, prioritizing long-term sustainability over short-term profits.

Navigating the Transition

When faced with the unexpected resignation, DBA took immediate action to ensure a smooth transition. They notified the leadership team, reassigned clients and responsibilities, and communicated with affected clients. The company’s well-defined offboarding and onboarding processes were crucial in navigating this challenge.

DBA’s offboarding process involved disconnecting the departing team member’s access to various systems, reassigning email and communication channels, and ensuring a seamless transition for clients. The company’s onboarding process, which includes training new team members on client-specific information and gradually introducing them to clients, allowed for a smooth integration of the replacement team member.

Having a pipeline of candidates and a structured hiring process also contributed to DBA’s ability to fill the vacancy quickly. Within two weeks of the resignation, the company had identified and onboarded a new Client Service Manager, minimizing disruption to client service.

The Importance of a Resilient and Adaptable Team

DBA’s experience highlights the importance of building a resilient and adaptable team structure in today’s fast-paced business environment. Handling unexpected challenges, such as a team member’s abrupt resignation, is crucial for maintaining client trust and ensuring long-term success and sustainability.

A well-designed team model, like DBA’s team of three, provides built-in redundancy and ensures smooth service delivery. Proper capacity planning and a focus on employee well-being contribute to the team’s resilience and adaptability. Well-defined processes for handling transitions, both offboarding and onboarding, allow businesses to navigate challenges smoothly and maintain client confidence.

Building a resilient and adaptable team requires a proactive approach and a commitment to continuous improvement. By learning from experiences like DBA’s unexpected turnover challenge, business owners can develop strategies to strengthen their teams and prepare for the unexpected.

Listen to the full episode of “Who’s Really the Boss” to learn more about how Rachel and Marcus Dillon, with the help of their team, navigated this challenge and the valuable lessons they learned along the way.

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