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Collective by DBA: Revolutionizing Operational Support for CPA Firms

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In episode 14 of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon reveal Collective by DBA (previously DBA Firm), a revolutionary initiative born from their experience as successful CPA firm owners. The Dillons have navigated the choppy waters of firm management and emerged with a blueprint for success that they’re now sharing with the accounting community.

Collective by DBA isn’t your typical consulting service. It’s a comprehensive support system designed specifically for CPA firm owners looking to overcome common hurdles and achieve sustainable growth. Their approach is simple yet powerful: By providing tailored resources, personalized implementation plans, and a supportive community, Collective by DBA empowers accounting firm leaders to transform their practices and reach new heights of success.

Operational support is at the heart of Collective by DBA’s approach—an often overlooked but crucial aspect of running a successful CPA firm. As Marcus emphasizes, “[Collective by DBA] is operational support for CPA firms. And I just I come back to operations—that’s the keyword.” This focus on operations sets Collective by DBA apart. While many consultants focus on technical accounting skills or marketing strategies, Collective by DBA recognizes that how a firm operates day-to-day is often the difference between struggling and thriving.

Collective by DBA targets firms with revenues between $500,000 and $5 million and 3 to 30 employees. As Marcus explains, “That’s really the core. That’s who we feel called to serve because that’s who we can make the greatest impact on.”

The Three Pillars of DBA Firm’s Support Model

Collective by DBA’s approach is built on three fundamental pillars: structure, strategy, and systems. 

  • Structure forms the foundation, with concepts like their “Team of Three” model providing a framework for organizing staff roles efficiently.
  • Strategy focuses on making smart decisions about the firm’s direction, such as transitioning from relying on seasonal tax work to more stable, recurring revenue streams.
  • Systems emphasizes leveraging technology and processes to streamline operations and improve efficiency.

Key Offerings

Collective by DBA offers a range of resources and services to support CPA firms:

  • Firm resources. Firms that join the Collective Community can download guides, templates, and case studies.
  • Webinars. Regular online sessions are eligible for CPE that cover topics ranging from team management to technology implementation.
  • GRIP (Goal Ready Implementation Plan). This intensive service involves a deep dive into a firm’s current state, goals, and challenges, resulting in a tailored 24-month plan for growth and transformation.
  • Advisors. Collective by DBA team members work closely with firms to implement changes, ensuring lasting positive impact through one-on-one advisory and group facilitation.
  • Community events. Collective by DBA hosts gatherings like their recent Get Together in The Woodlands, Texas, creating opportunities for accounting professionals to learn from each other and share experiences in person.

The Get Together Event

In April 2024, Collective by DBA hosted its first major in-person event, bringing together about 60 firm leaders nationwide. The two-day gathering included presentations from the Dillon Business Advisors and Collective by DBA, peer-led discussions, and the introduction of their GRIP service. Marcus notes, “Unlike many other conferences and events members might go to,  the other attendees are actually leaders in firms. We’re not stacking events with influencers, sponsors, and vendors.”

The Future of Collective by DBA

As Collective by DBA continues to grow, it’s expanding its offerings while staying true to its mission of providing operational support to CPA firms. Recent developments include gaining approval to issue CPE credits and plans to make its GRIP service more widely available.

Rachel summarizes their approach: “We are definitely not a technology company. What we are is very invested in building relationships and positively impacting and transforming the accounting industry. Building relationships and sharing what we’ve learned has been really rewarding and something that gets me really excited.”

For CPA firm owners looking to transform their practice, Collective by DBA is helping to create more efficient, profitable, and sustainable accounting practices by addressing the often-overlooked operational aspects of running a firm. To learn more about their resources and services, visit Collective by DBA and listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Reimagining Professional Gatherings for Meaningful Learning

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Conference season can be overwhelming for CPA firm owners and accounting professionals. Large industry events often lead to information overload and superficial networking. But what if there was a better way to learn, connect, and grow professionally?

In a recent episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon tackle this challenge head-on. As CPA firm owners and industry consultants, they’ve pioneered an innovative solution: the “Get Together” event model.

The “Get Together” Approach

The Dillons’ “Get Together” events are intentionally small and focused, with only about 50 to 70 people. This intimate setting fosters a collaborative atmosphere that combats the anonymity often experienced at larger events.

Key features of the Get Together include:

  • Round table setup. This encourages interactive discussions and peer-to-peer learning.
  • Advanced study sessions. These allow for deeper exploration of topics in smaller groups.
  • Practical, actionable content. The focus is on real-world application rather than theoretical knowledge.

Rachel explains, “We named it Get Together because it really was a gathering of friends of accounting industry peers who have the same goals and a desire to make their firms a better place to work.” This approach directly addresses the common frustrations with traditional conferences: information overload, superficial networking, and lack of actionable takeaways.

Target Audience and Exclusivity

The Get Together events are designed for firm owners and leaders from businesses with revenue between $500,000 to $5 million and team sizes of 3 to 30. This specificity allows for discussions and content directly relevant to all attendees.

Rachel emphasizes, “What that means is there’s a limited number of seats, and we want to make sure that we are able to be transparent, and we want to make sure that people who appreciate that are in the room.” This careful curation ensures everyone present is there for the right reasons: to learn, share, and grow.

Focus on Strategy, Structure, and Systems

The events cover three main pillars: strategy, structure, and systems (including software). Marcus explains, “Strategy could be as simple as mission, vision, and values, which a lot of people just write off as fluff in their business. But if they don’t have a clear mission, vision, or value statement, it’s so hard to help them steer the ship.”

Regarding structure, the Dillons discuss their “team of three” model, where each client has a dedicated Client Service Manager (CSM), Controller, and CFO. During the structure discussions, attendees dig into roles and responsibilities, workloads, and compensation strategies. 

They focus on tools for systems and software that create efficiencies and improve client and team member experiences.

Marcus notes, “We have some very important people that we are connected to in the software and systems world, and that’s who we partner with. So our events are not full of people trying to sell you stuff. If they’re just there to sell you something, they don’t need to be in the room.”

Maximizing Learning and Networking

To get the most out of any professional event, the Dillons suggest several strategies:

  • Set clear goals and intentions before attending
  • Check the agenda in advance and select relevant sessions
  • Actively network and share challenges/successes with other attendees
  • Take time to reflect and process information during and after the event
  • Prioritize next steps and actionable items post-event

Rachel stresses the importance of actionable outcomes: “If there are no actionable steps out of a conference, I don’t know that I can say it was a success. That next step might just be ‘call this person’ or ‘reach out to this company.’ But if there’s literally not a next step, I don’t know that it was worth the time and monetary investment.”

Maximize Your ROI on Professional Development

The Get Together model is a welcomed alternative to conference fatigue and information overload. By focusing on a specific audience, emphasizing practical outcomes, and providing strategies for effective participation, these events deliver tangible value to every attendee.

As you consider your next accounting conference or professional development opportunity, ask yourself: Are you seeking a flood of information or actionable insights? Are you looking for a room full of strangers or a community of like-minded professionals?

Less can be more in a world of constant noise and information overload. The Get Together model shows that reimagining how we learn, connect, and grow as accounting professionals can lead to more meaningful and impactful experiences. Learn more in the most recent episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

QuickBooks Online Tests Credit Karma Financing: What Accountants Need to Know

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In a recent Unofficial QuickBooks Accountants Podcast episode, hosts Hector Garcia and Alicia Katz Pollock discussed a significant new development in QuickBooks Online: the integration of Credit Karma financing options. This feature allows QuickBooks users to offer personal loan options to their customers directly through estimates, marking a potential shift in how small business tools operate.

This Feature Is In Testing

Note that this new feature has not yet been released generally. It is currently in beta testing and may not be available to all users. A ProAdvisor discovered it in her client’s file when the client sent an estimate to a customer. In addition to the expected messaging, the customer was invited to take out a loan to pay the invoice.

How It Works

When the QuickBooks user sent an estimate to a customer, they noticed financing offers powered by Credit Karma. In the fine print, the interest rates varied widely, from 8.49% to 35.99% APR with autopay. The loans are provided through a company called Upgrade, potentially allowing Intuit to monetize its $7 billion acquisition of Credit Karma. 

Importantly, this feature will be optional for QuickBooks users. It can be toggled on or off in the account settings, giving businesses control over whether to offer financing to their customers. When enabled, the financing option appears alongside the estimated details when customers view them. 

Potential Benefits and Concerns

This integration could help businesses convert more estimates into paid work by offering customers flexible payment options. As Alicia noted, “If you are somebody who gives high estimates and you know you struggle to have all of your bids accepted, this may be a way of actually getting them paid where you’re getting paid in full right up front.”

However, the hosts also raised some potential concerns:

  1. Privacy: There are questions about how QuickBooks customers’ information might be used to market these loans.
  2. High interest rates: The upper end of the APR range (35.99%) raised eyebrows among the hosts.
  3. Ethical considerations: Accountants may need to consider the implications of facilitating high-interest loans to their clients’ customers.
  4. Customer relationships: Businesses must decide whether offering financing aligns with their customer service approach.

Intuit’s Strategy

This integration is part of Intuit’s broader strategy to leverage its Credit Karma acquisition. By offering financing options within QuickBooks, Intuit aims to create a more comprehensive financial ecosystem for small businesses and their customers.

However, it’s important to note that Intuit does not directly provide the loans. Instead, they likely receive a commission for approved loans, similar to Credit Karma’s existing business model.

What Accountants Should Do

If you or your clients use QuickBooks Online, it’s essential to be aware of this new feature:

  1. Check the settings: Look for the “customer financing” toggle in the Discounts and Fees section of the new invoice experience.
  2. Discuss with clients: If the feature is available, discuss whether offering financing aligns with their business goals and customer relationships.
  3. Understand the terms: Familiarize yourself with the financing options and terms to advise clients appropriately.
  4. Monitor developments: As this feature is still being tested, watch for any changes or broader rollout.

The integration of Credit Karma financing into QuickBooks Online represents a significant shift in accounting software capabilities. While it offers potential benefits for businesses looking to close more sales, it also raises essential considerations about privacy, ethics, and customer relationships. As this feature develops, accountants will be crucial in helping clients navigate this new landscape of embedded financial services. Listen to the full  Unofficial QuickBooks Accountants Podcast episode for the latest information.

Alicia Katz Pollock’s Royalwise OWLS (On-Demand Web-based Learning Solutions) is the industry’s premier portal for top-notch QuickBooks Online training with CPE for accounting firms, bookkeepers, and small business owners. Visit Royalwise OWLS, where learning QBO is a HOOT!

California’s Bold Move to Solve the CPA Crisis: A Blueprint for Public Protection

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Is your financial security at risk due to a shortage of accountants? It might be. The CPA profession faces a talent crisis that threatens both balance sheets and public safety. With fewer than 1% of accounting firms saying they can find enough staff, we’re seeing the fallout in the form of financial misstatements and eroded public trust.

But there’s hope on the horizon. The California Board of Accountancy is taking bold steps to address this crisis, authorizing the staff to draft potentially groundbreaking legislation to streamline licensure requirements and grant automatic mobility for CPAs.

In a recent episode of The Accounting Podcast, we discussed this development with Amber Setter, Chief Enlightenment Officer for Conscious Public Accountants.

The CPA Shortage: A Looming Threat to Public Safety

The CPA shortage isn’t just an industry problem—it’s a public safety crisis. Amber argues that this talent drought directly threatens the core mission of the accounting profession: protecting the public interest.

“We are living in an era where it’s not like this pipeline issue is going to happen. We’re living it,” Setter emphasizes. The consequences are already visible and alarming. With insufficient staff, firms struggle to maintain adequate levels of review, a crucial safeguard against errors and fraud. This shortage compromises the very foundation of financial integrity that the public relies on.

State boards of accountancy, tasked with protecting the public, find themselves in a difficult position. How can they fulfill their mandate when there aren’t enough qualified professionals to do the work? As Setter points out, “Right now, the public’s not being protected without an adequate amount of people to do the work.”

California Leads the Charge: A Blueprint for Reform

The California Board of Accountancy (CBA) is taking bold steps that could revolutionize CPA licensure. Their order to draft legislation addresses the shortage head-on while maintaining the profession’s high standards and prioritizing public protection.

The CBA’s proposal includes several potentially groundbreaking changes:

  1. Eliminating the 150-hour education requirement
  2. Streamlining the initial licensure process
  3. Granting automatic mobility for CPAs from other states

These changes represent a significant shift from the status quo. By removing barriers to entry while maintaining rigorous standards, the CBA aims to expand the pool of qualified CPAs without compromising quality.

The action has garnered overwhelming support. A recent CBA survey with over 7,000 responses found that 89% of respondents agreed that a bachelor’s degree in accounting should fully meet the educational requirements for licensure. This level of consensus is rare and speaks to the situation’s urgency.

Commenting on the significance of this move, Amber said, “This is a huge domino. I would hope other states are already calling California up saying, ‘Hey, what are you doing? We want to do this too.'” Her enthusiasm underscores the potential for California’s actions to catalyze nationwide change.

The automatic mobility provision is particularly crucial for public protection. By allowing qualified CPAs from other states to practice in California without additional hurdles, it ensures that businesses and individuals have access to a larger pool of professionals.

Has the AICPA Lost Sight of Public Interest?

While states like California take decisive action, national organizations are dragging their feet. The contrast is stark and concerning, raising questions about whether the profession’s leadership has lost sight of its primary duty: protecting the public interest.

The AICPA’s National Pipeline Advisory Group recently issued a report on addressing the CPA pipeline problem. However, the report lacks specific, immediate recommendations for change, which is troubling. While research and stakeholder input are valuable, the urgency of the current crisis demands immediate, substantive steps.

The consequences of this inaction could be severe. As the shortage persists, the risk of financial misstatements, undetected fraud, and erosion of public trust in financial reporting increases.

The inaction at the national level underscores the importance of state-led initiatives like California’s. State boards of accountancy, being closer to the ground and more directly accountable to the public, seem better positioned to address the crisis effectively.

Rethinking Accounting Education: A Call for Radical Reform

The CPA shortage crisis isn’t just about licensure requirements—it’s also an indictment of our current approach to accounting education. The disconnect between education and practical skills is a major contributor to the current crisis. Many accounting graduates struggle with basic tasks despite excelling in theoretical coursework. This gap between academic success and practical competence directly impacts public protection as new CPAs enter the field ill-equipped to catch errors or identify potential fraud.

We need a radical overhaul of accounting education to address the shortage while maintaining high standards. One bold proposal is to require only a bachelor’s degree in any subject to sit for the CPA exam rather than mandating specific accounting courses or degrees. This approach would force accounting programs to compete for students by offering valuable, practical education that prepares them for the CPA exam and real-world challenges.

Critics may argue this would lower standards, but the opposite could be true. By exposing accounting programs to market forces, we could drive innovation and improvement in curricula, ultimately producing more qualified and practically skilled CPAs.

Implementing such changes would face challenges, particularly from entrenched interests in academia. Many states would need to change legislation to enable these reforms. However, as California’s example shows, bold action is possible when public protection is prioritized.

The CPA profession stands at a critical juncture. The shortage of qualified accountants isn’t just an industry problem—it’s a clear and present danger to public safety and financial integrity. This crisis demands urgent, bold action to fulfill our profession’s core mission: protecting the public interest.

To gain a deeper understanding of these critical issues shaping the future of accounting, listen to the full episode of The Accounting Podcast, then reach out to your state board of accountancy. Express your urgent concern about the CPA shortage and its implications for public protection. Urge them to consider bold reforms like those proposed in California. Let’s act now to ensure a robust, capable, and trusted accounting profession for generations.

Why Tax Incentives Hurt More Than Help

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What if that mortgage interest deduction you’ve been counting on is actually making your dream home more expensive? Or if the tax credit for your child’s college tuition is secretly inflating their education costs? Welcome to the paradoxical world of well-intentioned tax policies, where good ideas often lead to unintended—and costly—consequences.

In a recent episode of The Earmark Podcast, I explored this issue with Scott Hodge, President Emeritus and Senior Policy Advisor at the Tax Foundation, a leading independent tax policy think tank.

Our conversation revealed how tax policy has a huge impact on everyone – both as professionals and as taxpayers. As Scott put it, “In so many ways our daily lives are ruled by taxes, whether it’s how we get our health care to the kind of house or car we buy, so many elements of our daily lives are wrapped up in taxes, whether we know it or not.”

As accounting and tax professionals, we must be aware of the hidden costs of well-intentioned tax policies in healthcare, housing, and education, where tax incentives can paradoxically drive up prices, ultimately harming the consumers they aim to help. This isn’t just an academic exercise—it’s a call to action for our profession.

The Paradox of Well-Intentioned Tax Policies

Let’s look at three areas where well-meaning tax incentives have led to unexpected and often counterproductive outcomes.

Consider the healthcare system. The way it operates today, with the majority of Americans receiving health insurance through their employers, stems from tax policies dating back to World War II. During this time, individual income taxes were very high. Employers found offering health benefits, which were not taxed, to be a more competitive way to compensate their employees. This paved the way for what is known as a “third-party payer system,” where healthcare providers are more answerable to insurance companies and employers rather than patients. The outcome? A disconnect between consumers and the actual cost of healthcare leads to a rise in medical expenses.

We see a similar paradox in the housing market with the mortgage interest deduction. Designed to make homeownership more accessible, it often has the opposite effect. Scott noted, “A lot of economic research shows that the mortgage interest deduction is built into the price of homes.” In competitive markets like Washington, New York, and California, this can make housing less affordable—the exact opposite of its intended purpose.

Perhaps most surprising is how tax incentives affect higher education. Those tuition tax credits we often recommend to clients? They might be padding university coffers more than easing student debt. Scott used a vivid analogy to illustrate.

“Imagine going to Best Buy to buy a television set,” Scott says. “And the sales clerk knows everything about your finances—how much your parents make, how much your house is worth, etc. They can price that television based on your finances, and you wouldn’t have a whole lot of negotiating power, would you?” This is essentially what happens when students apply to universities with tax credits in hand.

The Economic Theory Behind Tax Effects

Scott laid out a fundamental principle that explains why many tax incentives fall short: “If government’s trying to subsidize something or incentivize it, it’s the sellers of the good that tend to capture the value of that credit or deduction.” 

Consider the electric vehicle tax credit, a hot topic in many client conversations. As Scott pointed out, “Obviously the automakers know what the value of that $7,500 credit is. And so they’re going to bake that into the price.” When advising clients on the potential savings of purchasing an electric vehicle, we need to consider that the sticker price may already reflect much of the tax credit’s value.

Conversely, when it comes to tax increases or tariffs, the burden typically falls on consumers. Scott explained, “Let’s say we were going to try to disincentivize imports so we increase tariffs by 10% across the board. Well, that’s going to get passed on to consumers through a 10% increase in prices across the board.” The takeaway? We need to be careful about using the tax code to incentivize and discourage behaviors because either way, we can see some unintended consequences.

Challenges of Tax Reform and the Role of Education

Given the paradoxes and economic principles we discussed, it’s clear that our current tax system often falls short of its intended goals. However, as Scott emphasized, “In order to get to tax reform, we’re going to have to do a lot of educating on the unintended consequences of these things.”

Scott outlined three key attitude changes needed for successful tax reform:

  1. Taxpayers must be willing to give up credits and deductions for a simpler, more effective system.
  2. Corporations should stop viewing tax departments as profit centers.
  3. Lawmakers need to find better ways to deliver benefits than through the tax code.

These mindset shifts are challenging because they often go against ingrained habits and perceptions. Many struggle to understand the trade-off between higher tax rates with more deductions versus lower tax rates with fewer deductions. As Scott explained using the mortgage interest deduction example, “That mortgage interest deduction is a great thing for me. But I understand that it actually makes housing less affordable and less available for everyone. So maybe if we phased it out, we’d all be better off.”

This is where our role as educators becomes crucial. When a client comes to us excited about a new tax credit, we need to help them see the bigger picture. By consistently providing this kind of nuanced advice, we’re not just helping our clients make better decisions; we’re contributing to a more informed public discourse on tax policy.

By explaining how a seemingly beneficial tax credit might be “baked into the price” of goods or services, we can help shift the conversation toward more effective policy solutions.

The challenges of tax reform are significant, but so is our potential impact. We need to arm ourselves with in-depth knowledge and fresh perspectives to lead in this arena. That’s why I encourage you to listen to the full episode of the Earmark Podcast featuring Scott Hodge. You’ll gain valuable insights into the economic principles driving tax effects and practical strategies for advising clients on these complex issues.