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Rachel Dillon

This CPA Spent Five Years Modernizing His Firm Before Making a Move to Buy It

Earmark Team · November 16, 2025 ·

In 2012, Tim Abbott walked into a Chicago accounting firm that still tracked tax returns on a clipboard. No electronic filing, no digital documents, just alphabetical lists checked off by hand. Eight years and one pandemic later, he owned that practice and another 40-year-old firm, and had transformed both into a thriving $2.4 million modern business while keeping nearly all their legacy clients.

In this episode of “Who’s Really the Boss?”, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon get Abbott’s story about acquiring and modernizing two multi-generational accounting firms in the Chicago suburbs. The journey involved a delicate balance between honoring tradition and driving innovation.

Starting With “No Is a Complete Sentence”

Abbott’s path to firm ownership began with an unexpected philosophy. “The best piece of advice I received,” Abbott shares, “is that no is a complete sentence.” This mantra guided his transformation of M.J. Vandenbroucke from a clipboard-based operation into a modern firm serving law offices, financial planners, and medical practices across the Chicago suburbs.

Abbott brought a fresh perspective to a firm frozen in time. With three daughters at home and a wife working as an elementary school nurse, he understood the importance of setting personal and professional boundaries. That discipline proved essential when navigating the complexities of modernizing practices that had operated the same way for decades.

The firm he joined in 2012 wasn’t broken; it was just stuck. With ten employees, many boasting 20 to 35 years of tenure, M.J. Vandenbroucke had successfully served clients since 1970. But success had bred complacency. The firm ran entity returns through UltraTax while processing individual returns in ProSeries, losing K-1 import capabilities. When Marcus Dillon learned about this setup, lost efficiencies immediately came to mind.

The Art of Incremental Change

Rather than shocking the system with sweeping reforms, Abbott orchestrated a deliberate five-year modernization plan. Each year from 2012 to 2017 brought one major improvement. Electronic filing replaced paper submissions. Digital file cabinets eliminated physical storage. Client portals opened new communication channels. Direct deposit streamlined payments.

“When you’ve been doing things largely the same way for 30 years, it can be challenging to change,” Abbott observed. His measured approach respected the staff’s experience and the clients’ expectations. This patience wasn’t passive; it was strategic.

Abbott received some invaluable advice about acquisitions: “Unless something is functioning horribly, don’t change anything you don’t have to” during the first year. By observing existing workflows and understanding why certain processes existed, he could distinguish between outdated habits and practices that genuinely served clients well.

This incremental approach delivered measurable results. Staff gradually embraced new technologies without feeling overwhelmed. Clients experienced improvements as enhancements rather than disruptions. Most importantly, the firm maintained its operational stability while building capacity for future growth. By 2017, Abbott was ready to acquire the practice, having proven that modernization didn’t require revolution.

When Coffee Leads to Acquisitions

Abbott’s second acquisition offers a lesson in professional serendipity. At a conference, he sat next to a CPA from New Jersey who mentioned knowing someone near Abbott’s Chicago office. “That casual breakfast conversation led to coffee meetings,” Abbott recalls, which evolved over two years into an acquisition agreement finalized in 2020, during the pandemic.

The 75-year-old owner of this second firm had no succession plan. Like M.J. Vandenbroucke, this practice had operated for nearly 40 years with established processes and long-term client relationships. Abbott acquired the business and moved the entire operation to their larger office space, merging two firms with a combined 90 years of history.

Both transitions followed a similar pattern, with previous owners staying on for approximately three years. The first owner planned to work through the 2020 tax season, but when COVID extended deadlines indefinitely, he decided to leave on June 30th. “If we don’t just rip the Band-Aid off, I’m going to be here forever,” he told Abbott.

The second owner maintained his full role for the first year, with Abbott sitting in on client meetings but not directly involved in work. Years two and three saw gradual transitions until Abbott hired a replacement CPA. This extended handoff was crucial for client retention.

Building Trust Through Continuity

Abbott presented the second acquisition as a “merger” rather than a takeover, maintaining all existing staff to ensure continuity. The messaging mattered. “There was actually a pretty big sense of relief that we had a continuity plan in place,” Abbott notes. Clients who had watched their CPA age into his seventies welcomed the security of younger leadership backed by familiar faces.

The human element proved crucial. When a bookkeeper has been working with a client for 22 years and stays through the transition, “there’s a lot of comfort there,” Abbott observed. This continuity helped maintain exceptionally high client retention rates through both acquisitions.

Not all relationships transferred smoothly, though. Referral sources—particularly those with personal connections to previous owners—were harder to retain than clients. “The owner’s friend, people he grew up with, high school buddies, fraternity friends, some of those don’t transfer very well, no matter how hard you try,” Abbott acknowledged.

Marcus Dillon confirmed this challenge from his own experience. “The referral sources who referred clients to the firm while it was owned by another CPA, some of those loyalties go away.” This means firms must activate new business development strategies to replace lost lead sources.

Discovering Hidden Challenges and Strengths

Post-acquisition discoveries revealed problems and unexpected assets. Abbott uncovered situations like clients receiving May financials in September because “they’re always late and we have to call three times.” Marcus Dillon shared similar experiences, noting how sellers suddenly reveal after closing which clients are “awful to work with.”

But Abbott also discovered the firm’s employees had an exceptional ability to explain complex concepts without condescension. “We’ve received several referrals from prospects who said, ‘so and so told me to call you, I need help. And they said you wouldn’t make me feel dumb.’” This skill became a cornerstone of the firm’s value proposition.

The firm’s recent website redesign reflects this evolution. Rather than hiding behind traditional industry opacity, Abbott chose radical transparency with published pricing. “We’re not out here to compete with anybody on price, but you have no reason to hide it.” The new site at mjvcpa.com has already generated upsells from existing clients who discovered services they didn’t know the firm offered.

The Power of Peer Connections

Throughout these transitions, Abbott credits peer relationships as essential to survival. “COVID was brutal for everybody,” he reflects. “I don’t know that I would still be here running a firm without just some of those relationships that got me through the tough times.”

His involvement in mastermind groups and communities like Collective by DBA provided crucial support. “Having the resources of other firm owners that have literally walked in your shoes and faced the same challenges, getting their perspective, wisdom, and advice has always been hugely beneficial to me.”

These connections even facilitated acquisitions within the group. Marcus Dillon recalled how a conversation with one mastermind member led to another acquisition for his firm. The lesson? Professional relationships often yield unexpected opportunities.

Building for the Next 50 Years

Today, M.J. Vandenbroucke employs 13 team members in a hybrid environment, with staff in the office one to four days per week and two fully remote employees. 

After years of integration work, they’ve finally standardized processes across both acquired firms. Goals have shifted from survival to optimization. The firm has the capacity to grow without adding headcount.

“When you take the right steps, generally the results follow,” Abbott reflects. His patient approach to building on established foundations while creating new value positions M.J. Vandenbroucke for another 50 years of service.

For accounting professionals considering acquisitions, Abbott’s experience offers valuable lessons. Respect the pace of change. Invest in extended transitions that transfer trust, not just client files. Honestly evaluate what deserves preservation versus transformation. And perhaps most importantly, remember that “no is a complete sentence,” because boundaries matter when managing complex transitions.

Listen to the full episode to discover Abbott’s specific strategies for managing resistant staff, navigating unexpected challenges, and building the critical peer relationships that make these transformations possible. With patience, respect, and strategic thinking, you can honor the past while building for the future.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 20 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Admitting You Don’t Know Everything Became This Young CPA’s Secret Weapon

Earmark Team · August 19, 2025 ·

Picture this: You’re 26 years old with a newborn baby, eating rice and beans from a bulk bag because your accounting firm is three months away from bankruptcy. Your Excel budget calculation was catastrophically wrong, and you’re facing the reality that your entrepreneurial dream might be over before it really began.

That’s exactly where Nate Goodman found himself in 2022. He was staring at his wife across their kitchen table in Black Mountain, North Carolina, wondering if they’d bitten off more than they could chew. “I told my wife, ‘We tried it, I failed. We’re gonna have to eat rice and beans,’” Goodman recalls.

Fast-forward to today, and Goodman’s firm, Goodman CPAs, just closed 2024 with $1.7 million in annual revenue. His team of 12 professionals serves clients across the country, and he’s building toward a $2 million run rate.

His transformation from struggling bookkeeper to successful CPA firm owner didn’t happen because he suddenly became a better accountant. It happened because he discovered something many of us resist: admitting you don’t know everything can be your greatest competitive advantage.

In the latest episode of the Who’s Really the Boss? podcast, Goodman shares the raw details of his journey, including the pivotal moments when crisis became his catalyst for growth.

From Churches to CPAs: The Humble Beginning

Goodman’s story doesn’t start with grand business plans or venture capital. It starts with chickens, three young boys (ages 5, 4, and 2), and a simple desire to help churches with their bookkeeping while maintaining work-life balance.

In December 2019, fresh out of his MBA program, Goodman launched what he thought would be a small bookkeeping practice focused on churches. “I have some mentors doing this and only working  20 or 30 hours a week,” he explains.

But a conversation with Jim, an experienced CPA firm owner, changed everything. When Goodman pitched his church bookkeeping idea, Jim asked the hard question: “What are your credentials? Do you have any experience? Do you have any education?”

Goodman had an MBA but admitted to a limited accounting background. Jim’s response was direct: “Well, no one’s going to trust you if you don’t either have education or experience.”

Instead of getting defensive, Goodman chose to be teachable. Within a week, he re-enrolled in school for his accounting certificate so he could sit for the CPA exam. Jim sweetened the deal: complete a tax course, and he’d bring Goodman on as an intern for the 2020 tax season.

The Crisis That Changed Everything

By 2022, things looked promising on the surface. Goodman had purchased Jim’s practice (Jim was 85 at the time) and another practice through owner financing. But underneath, the numbers weren’t adding up.

The problem was embarrassingly simple and devastatingly expensive. Goodman had built his budget in Excel, but made a critical error. “I got the calculation wrong. My shareholder distributions were being added back to the cash,” he explains. “When I figured it out, I was like, oh, we only have like three months left, and we’re not going to make it to next tax season.”

The timing couldn’t have been worse. The CPA he’d hired was asking for more money than the firm simply couldn’t afford. “That was my first time terminating somebody. And that went very poorly,” Goodman admits.

That’s when the rice and beans period began. “We bought the big bulk bag of rice and did that whole thing to make it work,” he says. They were literally living on the most basic provisions while trying to save their struggling business.

But this rock-bottom moment became Goodman’s turning point. Instead of giving up, he finally discovered something that would transform his business: CPA communities and coaching groups.

“I did not even know that CPA communities existed, that there were other CPA owners out there that would share common knowledge. And so I was just going blind through 2022. And that was a very dark year for the business,” he reflects.

The transformation began in August 2022 when he found coaching groups that taught him proper pricing strategies and service delivery models. “I could price a 1040, but to price a CFO engagement or a bookkeeping engagement, I was just shooting from the hip and hoping for the best.”

The Systematic Turnaround

The results were immediate and dramatic. After implementing the new models and pricing strategies, Goodman’s firm grew from roughly $300,000 to $1.2 million in revenue in 2023—a nearly 300% increase in a single year.

Part of this growth came from strategic acquisitions. The acquired practices brought about $150,000 in revenue, and a third acquisition added $275,000. But the real growth came from transforming how they served existing clients.

“We were able to present to them, hey, instead of getting your financials once a year, what if we did your bookkeeping once a month, and you could make some more decisions? And what if we could save you $30,000 in taxes next year, and it’ll cost you a fraction of that, but it’s more than you’re paying now?” Goodman explains.

The firm also benefited from being the only CPA practice in Black Mountain. “We’re the only people here that can provide this service now,” Goodman notes, which helped with client retention during the transition.

Building Systems That Weather Storms (Literally)

By 2024, the firm had grown to 12 team members working in a hybrid model. Some work in the office, others are fully remote, and they even have team members in the Philippines. But their systems faced the ultimate test in September 2024 when Hurricane Helene hit.

“The eye of the storm went through our town,” Goodman explains. “About a 10th of a mile down from our house turned into a lake.” While their community was devastated, with power lines down and infrastructure destroyed, Goodman made a crucial decision.

“We’re like, well, we could take the server, take the networking equipment so people can VPN to the office, and we can set it up at my parents’ house in Roanoke, Virginia,” he recalls. “So we drove to Roanoke, plugged in the server, hooked it up to their internet, and then our team could work from my parents’ living room.”

This wasn’t just crisis management—it showed how the firm’s systems had evolved to handle unexpected challenges. The team maintained operations while their entire region struggled with basic utilities.

The Power of Peer Networks

Goodman’s discovery of peer communities happened almost by accident, but it became a game-changer for his business. During summer 2024, while mowing his lawn and trying to complete CPE requirements, he discovered he could listen to accounting podcasts instead of sitting through webinars.

“A friend of mine told me about Earmark to earn CPE with podcasts. I was like, ‘This is great. Now I don’t have to sit down for like a webinar or something,’” he explains.

That’s when he found the “Who’s Really the Boss?” podcast and heard discussions about fractional CFO services and team structures, and listening to the podcast helped him discover the team structure the firm needed to move toward. 

The remarkable part? His firm had just overhauled its structure two months earlier. But instead of sticking with something that wasn’t working, Goodman brought the new model to his leadership team with complete honesty. A willingness to abandon recent work in favor of proven systems accelerated their growth significantly.

Current Focus and Future Goals

Today, Goodman’s firm operates with metrics and systems that would impress much larger practices. Team members earn performance bonuses based on four specific metrics: maintaining accuracy above 90%, achieving client satisfaction scores of 90% or above, keeping client retention at 90% or above, and completing month-end closes by the 15th.

The firm also specializes in serving direct primary care practices—doctors who’ve left the traditional healthcare system for a subscription-based model. “We really believe in what they’re doing and the model they’re building. So we’re trying to be the great back office so they can focus on patient care,” Goodman explains.

They’ve even hired a dedicated salesperson with a compensation structure of $50,000 base plus 8% on collected revenue and 4% on first-year residuals. It’s a sophisticated operation for a firm that’s only five years old.

The firm’s current focus is on process optimization and AI implementation to help their team work more efficiently. Their goal? A 36-hour workweek with half-day Fridays while maintaining their growth trajectory toward $2.5 million in revenue.

The Lessons That Matter

Looking back, Goodman’s transformation offers clear lessons for other firm owners:

  • Be willing to admit what you don’t know. “I’ve been surprised at how many people are relatively open with what they’re doing and willing and wanting to help you and your development,” he reflects. “And so just asking the question, asking for a virtual coffee has been extremely helpful.”
  • Find your community. The isolation of trying to figure everything out alone nearly destroyed Goodman’s business. Once he found coaching groups and peer networks, his growth accelerated dramatically.
  • Implement proven systems rather than reinventing them. Goodman’s breakthrough came when he stopped trying to create everything from scratch and started following blueprints that other successful firms had already tested.
  • Stay teachable. When Goodman discovered the team-of-three structure just months after reorganizing his firm, he didn’t let pride prevent him from making another change. That flexibility to adapt has been crucial to his success.

At 29 years old, Goodman is quick to acknowledge he still has much to learn. “I love to learn from people who have been here and done that,” he says.

His advice to other young firm owners facing similar challenges is simple: “Don’t stress out so much. It will work out.” But pair that with action: seek mentorship, join communities, and be willing to admit when you need help.

Your Next Step

Goodman’s story offers insights into pricing strategies, team structures, acquisition approaches, and the systems that enabled his dramatic growth. If you’re ready to move beyond struggling alone and start leveraging the collective wisdom of successful practitioners, listen to his full interview on “Who’s Really the Boss?

Sometimes the difference between eating rice and beans and building a multi-million dollar firm isn’t what you know; it’s your willingness to learn from those who’ve already walked the path.

The crisis that could have ended Goodman’s entrepreneurial dreams became the foundation for extraordinary growth. Your current challenges might be setting the stage for your own breakthrough if you’re willing to be teachable enough to find it.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

The Remote Team Retreat Strategy That Beats Software Upgrades Every Time

Earmark Team · August 6, 2025 ·

Most CPA firm owners spend their improvement season updating software or tweaking processes. Rachel and Marcus Dillon are doing something different. They’re taking their entire 26-person remote team to Mexico for four days of relationship-building, goal-checking, and some serious fun in the sun.

The husband-and-wife team behind Dillon Business Advisors just shared their complete retreat strategy on their latest “Who’s Really the Boss?” podcast episode. Their approach reveals how treating team culture as business infrastructure—not just a nice-to-have—creates competitive advantages no software upgrade can match.

From Monthly Breakfasts to International Retreats

The Dillons didn’t always plan elaborate team getaways. When everyone worked in the same office, they kept things simple: bringing in lunch, organizing breakfast meetings, or grabbing dinner together. Even after going remote with a local team, monthly breakfast meetups worked well.

But as their team spread nationwide, those frequent touchpoints became impossible. Instead of giving up on team building, they made a strategic shift that many firm owners would never consider: two high-impact retreats per year.

The economics work better than you’d expect. Their domestic beach trip to Destin, Florida, last year cost significantly more than this year’s all-inclusive Mexico resort.

“The international all-inclusive option is actually a little more budget-friendly,” Marcus explains. Plus, team members won’t face surprise expenses for drinks and meals like they did in Florida.

This shift is about more than cost savings; it’s about recognizing that relationship building requires concentrated investment to generate meaningful returns.

Using Data to Build Better Relationships

The Dillons don’t plan retreats based on gut feelings. They treat team dynamics with the same analytical rigor they apply to financial planning.

Before finalizing their Mexico agenda, they surveyed their leadership team using Patrick Lencioni’s “Five Dysfunctions of a Team” assessment. The results revealed something important about high-performing teams: excellence in some areas can make weaker spots stand out more clearly.

Their team scored well across all five dysfunction categories—absence of trust, fear of conflict, lack of commitment, avoidance of accountability, and inattention to results. However, the assessment identified their two lowest-scoring areas: conflict avoidance and peer accountability. These weren’t crisis-level problems, just the next areas for improvement.

“When you refine something and it becomes really good, then the next friction point stands out just a little more because now the other areas are running so smoothly,” Rachel explains.

The assessment also came with ready-made solutions. “One really cool thing with that assessment, when it came back, they actually sent activities to try to help build the areas of weakness,” Rachel says. “We did not have to go out and search. We didn’t have to call our friend, ChatGPT, to help us come up with ideas.”

This systematic approach beats generic team building every time. But it requires a crucial commitment: following through on what you learn.

“The worst thing you can do is survey somebody or ask somebody their opinion and not do anything with it,” Marcus emphasizes.

The Mexico Agenda: Four Hours That Shape Six Months

The Dillons arrived in Isla Mujeres on a Thursday, then dedicated Friday morning to formal meetings. The rest of the trip focuses on culture, relationships, and fun. Still, those four hours of structured time drove real business improvements.

They started with celebrations and goal reviews. Marcus shared revenue numbers, client acquisition progress, and team updates. “We share revenue. We share where we’re at on track as far as the goals we’ve set,” he explains.

This transparency creates collective ownership of business outcomes. When team members understand exactly how their work contributes to the firm’s success, they make different decisions about client service and efficiency.

Next came “Turning Conflict into Connections,” their targeted response to the assessment results. Instead of hoping team members will naturally become more assertive, they created explicit permission for difficult conversations.

“Team meetings aren’t only for the leadership team to talk,” Rachel explains.

Angel, their director of technology, covered cell phone security protocols. Then they tackled something that could transform their client service: categorizing clients based on team experience rather than leadership assumptions.

“There are simple clients and complex clients, but there are also good complex clients,” Rachel says. The hypothesis: responsiveness matters more than technical complexity. “The complex clients who are responsive, who implement the advice and the strategies we give them, they’re not as hard to manage.”

They wrapped up with peer accountability training, moving beyond traditional top-down management to distribute leadership responsibility across the entire team.

Beyond the Meeting Room

The non-meeting activities included relationship-building exercises that translate into better workplace collaboration: water activities with paddleboarding and snorkeling, Mexican bingo (Loteria), and a team dinner where Marcus recognized each team member in front of their spouse or guest.

“It’s nice for families and friends to see the impact you have for all of the hours you spend away from them working,” Rachel says.

The trip concluded with karaoke, something they missed at their last retreat when the karaoke spot was too far from the hotel. This time, they brought karaoke to the team.

The Numbers Game

Taking 26 people across international borders, coordinating planes and boats to reach an island resort, and budgeting tens of thousands of dollars is a big investment, and it sends a clear message about how the Dillons value their team.

But the real return shows up in compound effects: reduced turnover, faster problem resolution, better client satisfaction, and the competitive advantage of having a team that genuinely enjoys working together.

While competitors debate software features or chase marketing trends, the Dillons are building human infrastructure that’s much harder to replicate. You can’t download better team communication or purchase improved conflict resolution skills.

Your Next Move

The Dillons prove that systematic investment in team relationships creates business advantages that technology alone cannot provide. Their transparent approach offers a roadmap for any firm owner ready to treat culture as seriously as revenue. The question isn’t whether you can afford to invest in team relationships; it’s whether you can afford not to.

Ready to hear their complete strategy? Listen to the full episode for their detailed retreat agenda, specific dysfunction-busting activities, and the real numbers behind their cultural investment approach. You’ll discover how they handle team transitions, their client categorization exercise, and why peer accountability might be the missing piece in your team dynamics.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Selling Your Accounting Firm: Misconceptions, Valuations, and Market Realities

Earmark Team · April 15, 2025 ·

The accounting profession is experiencing a wave of mergers and acquisitions right now, which is forcing firm owners to make tough decisions about their futures. 

In the latest episode of the “Who’s Really the BOSS” podcast, Doug Lewis, the Managing Director at Visionary Group, offered insider insights into accounting firm transactions, drawing from his extensive experience in the field.

Record-Breaking M&A Activity

In 2024, accounting firm transactions set new records, and it looks like 2025 might double those numbers. As Lewis explained:

“2024 was industry-wide across the accounting profession absolutely wild. The pure number volume of transactions that were happening…a lot of people don’t realize how many half-million to $5 million transactions take place almost weekly at this point.”

While big acquisitions by major firms and private equity groups grab headlines, most transactions involve smaller practices that often go unnoticed. This surge in activity is driven by two key factors:

  1. Demographic Reality: The average baby boomer is now in their late 60s, and this generation still owns most accounting practices. Many are discovering that their internal succession plans have either failed or didn’t exist in the first place.
  1. Growth Strategy Shift: Larger accounting firms have increasingly turned to acquisitions as their primary growth strategy. Once firms reach certain revenue levels, relying purely on organic growth simply isn’t enough.

“Once a firm reaches a certain revenue size, it’s extremely difficult to move the growth needle if you’re just focusing on organic growth,” Lewis noted. “The numbers can get staggering on how much new business you have to bring in.”

This creates what Lewis calls a “perfect storm” in the marketplace: Aging owners needing exit strategies are facing off against growth-hungry acquirers who see mergers and acquisitions as their best route to expansion.

Who’s Buying Accounting Firms?

The landscape of potential buyers for accounting firms has changed a lot in recent years. Lewis pointed out three main types of buyers:

  1. Independent Accounting Firms: These firms continue to acquire practices, often opting for equity swaps rather than cash transactions. In many cases, these deals are structured as “mergers,” where the selling partner rolls into the compensation program of the acquiring firm.
  1. Outside Investors: This group includes private equity firms, outsourcing companies, technology firms, and wealth managers who are increasingly getting involved in the accounting space.
  1. Hybrid Firms: These are firms that have already taken on partial or majority private equity investment and are becoming more active in making acquisitions, typically using different transaction structures.

Despite these categories, Lewis emphasizes, “I’ve been a part of hundreds of these things over the years, and I have yet to see two transactions that were ever structured in the exact same format.”

How Firm Valuations Are Changing

It seems like the marketplace is really shifting from revenue-based valuations to EBITDA-based approaches, which align more closely with how other industries operate.

“The overwhelming majority of acquirers are shifting from the multiple of gross revenue down to the multiple of EBITDA, which makes sense because that’s how the majority of other businesses trade,” Lewis explained.

Even with this change, gross revenue multiples still serve as a useful reference point. Lewis noted, “Usually the multiple of gross revenue is always going to hover around that one time mark. Some are significantly higher if it’s a niche profitable practice and some are significantly lower.”

A key consideration in this process is how EBITDA is calculated—especially when it comes to owner compensation. Lewis states, “When we look at EBITDA, the true profitability on a firm, we look at it before any single owner in that company takes home a dime. That’s the starting point.”

This can often lead to tension during negotiations since sellers typically view their compensation as separate from the firm’s profitability, whereas buyers see owner compensation as a cost that needs to be factored in.

Another concept that Lewis brings up is what he calls the “scrape”—essentially the return on investment that buyers require. As Marcus puts it: “If the scrape on a transaction’s 10%, 20%, you have to evaluate this business purchase up against anything else in the market, including just going and sitting that cash in an interest-bearing account.”

Building Value in Your Accounting Firm

If you’re looking to sell your firm or transition ownership, there are some proven strategies that can really boost its value. Lewis identified four key areas to focus on:

1. Develop Your Talent

One of the biggest draws for potential buyers is the talent within your firm. While having younger partners can be a real advantage, Lewis stressed that having strong management at all levels is crucial:

“Young partnership talent is phenomenal to have. But if you have strong managers, that next level director manager level people inside your firm, that’s going to significantly help valuation.”

2. Optimize Your Client Portfolio

Many accounting firms struggle with revenue concentration that goes beyond the classic 80/20 rule:

“It’s not uncommon for us to see more of like a 90/10, 95/5 rule inside accounting firms,” Lewis pointed out.

This means that only a handful of client relationships are driving most of the firm’s value. Lewis shared an eye-opening example: when he asked a seller about their top ten clients, they could only name about five or six and realized they didn’t really know what those clients were trying to accomplish.

Rachel highlighted her own experience: “We were spending a lot of time with very low revenue clients, like multiple touch points on these that spent the least amount with our firm. And it didn’t make any sense.”

3. Review Fee Structures

One of the most effective strategies for increasing your firm’s value is to conduct thorough pricing reviews:

“I’ve yet to really see a firm that has priced themselves out of any market, which is shocking,” Lewis noted.

Despite this insight, many firms hold on to outdated pricing structures that undervalue their services. Lewis recommends that firms “aggressively review your fee structures” and set minimum fee thresholds to get rid of unprofitable client relationships.

4. Highlight Advisory Opportunities

While it may not be realistic for everyone to build strong advisory practices—especially those nearing a transition—Lewis suggests a different route:

“If a firm is a little late in the game to really jump start an advisory department, what they should do is be able to clearly state and identify the advisory revenue opportunities that exist inside their base to a potential buyer.”

Clearly communicating these untapped potential opportunities to potential buyers can significantly boost your firm’s perceived value.

Common Misconceptions When Selling

For firms working on a sale or merger, Lewis says there are two big misconceptions that tend to derail transitions:

  1. Unrealistic valuation expectations often stem from anecdotal information about what other firms received. “When you hear, ‘oh, this firm got a multiple of this’ or ‘private equity wants this in a firm’—yeah, they do, but they want one in a firm that’s 20 times your size,” Lewis explained.
  1. Underestimating transition timelines is another common pitfall. “There are a lot of aging owners out there right now who think that when I’m ready to hang it up, I can just list the thing, sell it, and walk away,” Lewis noted. “Those types of transactions where there is not a relatively extended transition period post-deal—those are becoming less and less commonplace in the market.”

Every Firm Will Face Transition

Lewis’s view is simple: transition is inevitable for every accounting practice.

“Every single firm transacts now. There’s really only three transactions out there. Number one is you’re going to either sell or merge the thing. Number two is you’re going to pull off the internal succession. And number three is you’re going to close your doors.”

This reality completely changes how we should think about firm value. Building value isn’t just something you do when you’re getting ready to sell – these core business principles improve outcomes no matter which path you take.

As Rachel put it: “We need to be doing these things as well if we’re hoping one day that one of our current team members or a future team member is going to want to buy or continue the legacy of our current firms. We need to make them attractive to the people who are working in them as well.”

In today’s red-hot market for accounting firm deals, the winners will be those firms that consistently build value through disciplined business practices instead of waiting until they’re about to transition.

Want to hear more from Doug Lewis? Listen to the episode, and don’t forget to subscribe to “Who’s Really the BOSS” for more insights on building a valuable accounting firm.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Design Better Habits, Build a Better Accounting Firm

Earmark Team · February 25, 2025 ·

When Rachel Dillon began her 4:30 a.m. workouts in January 2010, she only knew she needed a routine that fit her teaching schedule. She had no idea this personal commitment would eventually shape how she and her husband, Marcus Dillon, run their accounting firm, Dillon Business Advisors. Years later, they discovered that the same habits guiding their health journey could also help them overhaul their business.

Starting from Excess and Finding Focus

In 2016, Rachel and Marcus merged their firm with a mentor’s practice. This left them juggling more clients than they could serve effectively. At the same time, they were both working with a nutrition coach to improve their health. Seeing how steady, daily actions led to personal change, they realized these principles could solve their firm’s overload problem.

The final puzzle pieces came together when the Dillons read James Clear’s Atomic Habits. They recognized they’d already been applying many of his ideas to their personal lives and their accounting practice. This sparked an intentional approach to three principles that continue to guide their growth today.

1. Make It Obvious and Easy

A big lesson from Atomic Habits is turning good intentions into obvious, easy actions. The Dillons did this by scheduling important firm tasks at the start of each year. They get quarterly client meetings, team scorecards, and even vacation windows on the calendar long before anything else can crowd them out.

Rachel explains, “What gets measured, gets managed, and what gets scheduled is more likely to happen.” 

Going on a family vacation during spring break is nearly unheard of in accounting firms as it often falls right in the middle of the March 15th and April 15th tax deadlines. But the Dillons started blocking off spring break in small steps. At first, it was just a few days, but then they eventually built up to the entire week. This helped them balance busy season deadlines with time for family. Over time, team members also learned that when tasks and priorities are clearly laid out, everyone stays accountable.

2. Environment Design

Environment design means shaping spaces and systems so the right behaviors become natural. When Rachel and Marcus wanted more flexibility for their team, they began transitioning to remote work. Before going fully remote, they tested digital tools like Microsoft Teams so people became comfortable collaborating online. They also invested in proper desks, monitors, and other equipment rather than letting everyone rely on a single laptop at the dining room table.

According to Marcus, “If someone stayed on one small laptop for five years, they wouldn’t be as effective. Actually spending money on environmental design was a good call.” By building a flexible, remote-first culture, they kept talented staff who valued autonomy. They also served clients more effectively because team members had the right setups to do their work.

3. Identity-Based Habits

Finally, the Dillons aligned their daily actions with the values and identity they wanted for their firm. Marcus and Rachel emphasize transparency, so they share their objectives early—even when they’re unsure how plans will unfold. For example, they’ve begun exploring possible firm acquisitions to grow beyond the standard one-client-at-a-time model. They keep their team in the loop even before potential deals become certain.

“Transparent leaders do this,” says Rachel. Their team appreciates being trusted with big-picture thinking and offers ideas for making acquisitions smoother. Marcus adds that their firm’s vision and values mirror their personal ones, so it feels natural rather than forced. When beliefs, words, and actions match, big changes tend to stick.

Personal Habits Fuel Professional Results

The Dillons’ story shows that lasting change often starts with personal commitments. By applying principles of habit formation to their firm—making tasks obvious, designing supportive environments, and acting consistently with their values—they’ve built an organization that embraces growth year-round.

To learn more about how Rachel and Marcus continue to evolve their firm and stay true to their values, listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast. You can also visit Collective.cpa for more resources to help you design a modern accounting practice.


Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

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