In 2020, Marilyn Melendez’s father got sick. Her mother, whom Marilyn calls “the end all and be all for the firm,” stepped away to care for him. Within one month, four of the firm’s 20 employees left and took a substantial book of business with them.
On a recent episode of Who’s Really the BOSS?, Rachel and Marcus Dillon talk with Marilyn, an enrolled agent and president of Dalia Tax & Business Advisors, a bilingual firm in West Palm Beach, Florida. The 43-year-old firm has seven employees and brings in about $1.4 million. Her mother retired this year. Marilyn’s story shows a firm’s real limits are time, energy and culture, not client count. For her, respecting those limits led to a smaller firm that earns about the same money.
A crisis that exposed a firm full of silos
Every operations question and client issue went to Marilyn’s mother. When she stepped away, “the firm really suffered.” The lesson was, “We can’t have a firm full of silos. We needed to integrate,” Marilyn says.
Her mother was old school and believed the customer is always right. “You don’t say no to business. It’s always more, more, more.” Marilyn wanted the opposite. “You need to protect your employees. Make sure a client is the right fit and grow based on the amount of effort you want to put in.”
She recommends founders “look at succession planning way earlier than you think you need it.” Her own transition brought dips, including lost clients and employee turnover. Rachel suggested handing off responsibilities while the founder is still around as a safety net, so the successor can “try and potentially fail or succeed” before the founder exits.
Fewer clients, same revenue
“I found that less is more,” Marilyn said. “My firm is smaller in size and has fewer clients, and we’re making about the same amount of money.” She can now “do more for those clients and get in deeper with them.”
Her sweet spot is businesses with $1 million to $3 million in gross revenue and usually around 25 or fewer employees. Companies with too many management layers don’t fit. Her niche is a type of person, not an industry. She prefers second-generation owners like herself, women entrepreneurs, and Spanish speakers learning to do business in the U.S. Rachel noted that people are often best qualified to help clients who are “where they were at one time.”
Marilyn says financial statements are “a byproduct,” not the goal. She sits down with each client and asks, “What’s your why?” Rachel pointed out that advisory doesn’t require having every answer. Often clients reach their own answers by talking a problem through out loud.
The takeaways are:
- Define your ideal client by shared experience, not only by industry
- Treat the P&L and balance sheet as tools that support the client’s real goals
- In advisory meetings, ask questions and listen more than you prescribe
Not every dollar costs the same
When Marilyn reviews proposals and pricing, she reminds herself that “not every dollar costs the same.” She considers emotional investment, not just profit margin.
She described certain clients, the “Wolf of Wall Street” type, who leave her drained after every interaction. “They’re not yelling at me, but it feels like they’re yelling at me.” Even if they pay above her rate, it doesn’t matter. “That dollar costs me my peace.”
For clients who don’t act on her advice, her limit is two or maybe three years of “same as last year.” Then she refers them to someone else. There’s also the caller-ID face. “Everybody who owns a firm knows the face.” You reset your voice, get through the call, then have to “off-gas” the interaction afterward.
Marcus admitted owners hang on too long “because you’re worried about the revenue.” But “revenue is fleeting,” he said. Time and the people you spend it with matter more. Marilyn also recommends letting go gracefully of prospects who can’t fit within your numbers, because they may come back when they can afford you. Three years later, “that’s a blink of an eye.”
Price without taking it personally, and protect the team
Marilyn asked Marcus a pointed question. When you price a proposal, is “a rejection of that proposal a rejection of you?” Marcus admitted he does see it as a personal rejection.
So he removed himself from the sales process. Rachel now does much of that work, and Lezlie Reeves, DBA’s Director of Accounting & Advisory, brings a more analytical eye to pricing. As Marcus described Lezlie’s view, if clients “opt out, that’s great. We’ll have more capacity to serve more clients.” That beats agonizing over whether a $5 increase will spark a negative Google review. Rachel doesn’t lose sleep over a no. It just means something didn’t align.
Marcus tied pricing to culture. “Every time we say yes, that shifts culture.” Each new client changes what a team member’s day looks like. Marilyn guards that with a “no jerk policy.” Clients must speak to her staff in the same tone they use with her. Enforcing it shows employees she’s on their side and the client isn’t always right.
Less is the gold
“Doing more with less. If anybody takes anything away from this, that is the gold,” Marcus said, summing the conversation up. Marilyn put the stakes plainly. “You can always make more money, but you can’t make more time.”
- Audit clients for energy cost, not just fee
- Separate pricing from personal identity
- Start succession planning early
Listen to the full episode to hear about Marilyn’s team retreat to the Dominican Republic and her unusual sabbatical.
Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a national, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 28 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with Streamlined OS, an operating system for accounting firms, mastermind groups, and one-on-one advisory.
