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The Earmark Podcast

Why Your Clients Keep Losing Good Employees and How You Can Fix It

Blake Oliver · August 27, 2025 ·

Small businesses are losing talent and money through employee turnover while a proven solution sits right under their noses—one that their accountants could easily provide, but rarely do. The numbers are stark: companies lose productivity, face constant recruiting costs, and struggle to compete for quality employees. Yet most business owners don’t know that offering benefits could dramatically reduce these problems, and their trusted financial advisors aren’t telling them.

That’s the message from a recent Earmark Podcast episode featuring Justin Kurn, Chief Revenue Officer of Dark Horse CPAs, a firm that doubled revenue from $6 million to $12 million in just one year, and Julia Miller, GM and Head of Product – Benefits at Gusto. Their conversation revealed a massive disconnect between what small businesses desperately need and what they currently receive from their professional service providers.

The Hidden Cost of Employee Turnover and the Benefits Solution

Small businesses lose money due to a problem they don’t fully understand while ignoring a solution that’s both affordable and proven. Employee turnover quietly erodes the bottom line, yet most business owners don’t realize that benefits can solve this crisis.

Research at Gusto reveals numbers that should make every small business owner and their accountant pay attention. “Small businesses that offer 401(k) have 40% lower employee attrition in the first year of employment than small businesses that don’t,” she explains. “Small businesses that offer health insurance have 25% lower attrition in the first year.”

These aren’t small improvements. Employee retention directly impacts profitability. When employees leave within their first year, businesses lose productivity, institutional knowledge, and momentum. They face constant training cycles, disrupted team dynamics, and the opportunity cost of what that departing employee could have contributed.

Yet most small business owners approach benefits with a fundamental misconception that costs them dearly. “Businesses think of benefits as an immediate cost increase to their business when it actually is not,” Kurn observes from his experience working with hundreds of small businesses. The knee-jerk reaction is always the same: business owners assume they’ll need to pay 20, 30, or 40% more in payroll costs to cover employee health insurance and retirement contributions.

But most don’t realize that simply providing access to benefits, even when employees pay the premiums themselves, can be transformative. The value isn’t necessarily in what the employer contributes, but in what they make possible. As Justin points out, when you run the numbers, “if the options are I either give them a raise or I add benefits, benefits is probably the right option,” once you factor in payroll taxes and other considerations.

Perhaps more importantly, offering benefits widens the talent pool available to small businesses. “It’s not that the same candidate stays longer, it’s that a different candidate you didn’t even explore before is coming to you and staying longer,” Justin explains. Skilled employees who can demand and receive comprehensive compensation packages simply won’t consider positions that don’t offer benefits. By not providing these options, small businesses automatically exclude themselves from competing for top talent.

This creates a cycle: without benefits, businesses can only attract employees who can’t demand better packages elsewhere. These employees are often less committed, less skilled, and more likely to leave quickly when something better comes along. Meanwhile, companies offering benefits access an entirely different candidate pool of professionals who think strategically about their total compensation and career stability.

The Massive Advisory Gap and Competitive Opportunity

It’s shocking how few small businesses get the guidance they need. “Ten percent of our customers get benefits-related advice from their accountants,” Miller reveals. “Just imagine what we could do for the small business community in this country if that 10% went to 50%.”

Think about that for a moment. Nine out of ten small businesses struggle with employee retention, losing money through turnover, and missing out on accessing better talent pools, all while their trusted advisors remain silent on a solution that could transform their companies. This is a huge opportunity for accountants who recognize what’s happening.

Dark Horse CPAs understood this shift and built their explosive growth around it. The firm began building its advisory services at the tail end of 2022. They added benefits to their service menu and fundamentally changed how they engage with clients, moving from reactive compliance work to proactive strategic guidance.

Recognizing the trigger points and knowing how to act on them is crucial. Kurn’s team watches for three critical signals: revenue growth, staff growth, and high employee turnover. When they spot these patterns, “it’s a question of, not if, but when,” Justin emphasizes. “If you plant the seed of when, it’s like, ‘well, this is a necessary step in my growth and development as a business.’”

This subtle shift in messaging completely changes the client’s mindset. Instead of viewing benefits as an optional expense they might never need, clients begin to see it as an inevitable step in their business evolution. The conversation moves from “Do I really need this?” to “When should we implement this?”

The beauty of this approach is that it doesn’t require accountants to become benefits experts overnight. “If you focus just on compliance and blocking and tackling, these are not conversations that you’re privy to,” Justin notes. “But if you’re in the seat of the advisor, these conversations do come up either directly or indirectly.” The key is positioning yourself to hear these conversations and knowing when to act on them.

What makes this opportunity even more compelling is most accounting firms aren’t even trying to capture it. While Dark Horse doubled its revenue by embracing advisory services, their competitors remain stuck in the traditional compliance mindset. This creates a massive first-mover advantage for firms willing to make the shift now.

The Practical Path to Benefits Advisory Success

Shifting from transactional payroll processing to strategic benefits advisory doesn’t require accountants to become licensed insurance brokers overnight. Instead, you need to understand how to facilitate the process while positioning yourself as the trusted advisor throughout the journey. Dark Horse’s model leverages both technology and authenticity to create genuine value for clients.

Gusto’s platform enables what Kurn calls “self-discovery.” Rather than requiring accountants to lead every conversation and manage every detail, roughly 60% of Dark Horse’s clients actually discover and explore benefits options independently through the platform, then return to their accountants for validation and guidance. “They can self-assess quite often and look for validation from the accountant’s side, and then support during the process,” Kurn explains.

This model works because Gusto’s user experience encourages exploration rather than intimidating users. “Clients dump it onto their accountant because it’s like, ‘I don’t even want to go in here. I don’t even know how to get in here.’ Gusto is different,” Kurn notes. The platform follows an intuitive path that allows business owners to understand their options without feeling overwhelmed by complexity.

But the secret weapon that makes Dark Horse’s approach so effective is authenticity. “The best sales tool or the best advisory tool comes from a place of authenticity,” Kurn emphasizes. Dark Horse uses Gusto benefits for the firm, which means every team member experiences the platform as an end user. When clients have questions about the employee experience, Kurn can show them what they’ll see because he uses it himself.

This authenticity eliminates the biggest barrier many accountants face when considering benefits advisory work: the fear they’ll need to become benefits experts and “sell” something they don’t fully understand. Instead, it becomes a natural conversation: “Do you want to see? I could actually show you what the experience is as an employee. Like, this is what I see because I use it myself,” Kurn explains.

When clients are ready to move forward, Gusto provides licensed human advisors who can partner with accountants to help answer complex questions and guide clients through the selection process. This means accountants don’t have to become benefits experts. They just need to recognize when clients need this guidance and facilitate the connection.

The implementation process minimizes the burden on accountants and business owners. For new benefits offerings, Miller explains that while clients typically shop a few months ahead, the actual implementation can be compressed to about four weeks when necessary. The business owner’s involvement can be minimal. They need to understand what they’re signing up for and sign the necessary documents, but Gusto handles the heavy lifting of carrier coordination, employee communication, and enrollment management.

Most importantly, this advisory approach translates directly into significantly higher revenue for accounting firms willing to make the shift. Kurn’s pricing strategy is straightforward. The firm treats benefits implementation as project-based work with ongoing advisory fees that typically run two to three times higher than transactional services.

“There’s a three times delta between these two things. That’s the value to the firm if you can get into the seat of the advisor,” Kurn emphasizes. This isn’t about charging more for the same service. It’s about providing valuable, strategic guidance that justifies premium pricing.

The Time to Act is Now

This perfect storm of opportunity won’t last forever. Small businesses are struggling with employee retention, losing talented workers they can’t afford to lose. Offering benefits can slash turnover rates by 25% to 40%. Yet nine out of ten businesses don’t get this crucial guidance from their trusted advisors.

For the accounting profession, this is a chance to transform how we serve clients and position our firms in the marketplace. Dark Horse CPAs didn’t just stumble into doubling their revenue; they recognized their clients’ need for strategic guidance.

But this window won’t stay open indefinitely. As more accounting firms recognize this opportunity and begin offering benefits advisory services, the competitive advantage will diminish. The firms that act now, while 90% of their competitors remain stuck in transactional mode, stand to capture significant market share and establish themselves as the go-to advisors for growing businesses.

Start by implementing Gusto benefits for your firm to gain authentic experience with the platform. Begin watching for those trigger points Kurn identified: revenue growth, staff growth, and high employee turnover. When you spot these signals, initiate the conversation using “when” language rather than “if” language.

Most importantly, don’t let fear of the unknown hold you back. You don’t need to become a benefits expert overnight. You need to become the trusted advisor who recognizes when clients need this guidance and connects them with the right resources. The expertise already exists through platforms like Gusto’s licensed advisors. Your role is to facilitate access to it while providing the strategic oversight your clients depend on.

The small businesses in your portfolio are waiting for this guidance, whether they realize it or not. They’re struggling with employee retention, losing sleep over recruiting costs, and missing out on talented candidates who won’t even consider positions without benefits.

Don’t let this massive opportunity pass by. Listen to the full Earmark Podcast episode to hear Justin Kurn and Julia Miller’s complete playbook for transforming your practice through benefits advisory services. Your clients need this guidance, the data proves its effectiveness, and your competitors might not be providing it yet. Will you be among the first to capture it? Or among the last to realize what you missed?

Why Military Experience Creates Exceptional Accountants

Blake Oliver · August 20, 2025 ·

What do submarine oxygen levels have to do with solving the accounting talent shortage? More than you might think. For Navy veteran Mark Steinhoff, the precision required to manage life-support systems hundreds of feet underwater created the perfect foundation for his accounting career. 

On a recent episode of the Earmark Podcast, Steinhoff shared how his military experience, where a single error could be catastrophic, prepared him for a profession where accuracy is essential.

The Surprising Parallels Between Military Service and Accounting

At first glance, maintaining life support systems on a nuclear submarine and balancing financial statements seem worlds apart. Yet for Mark Steinhoff, the transition felt surprisingly natural.

“The military is very structured. You’ve got that typical hierarchy, chain of command, everything’s procedural compliance. You’ve got to follow the rules,” Steinhoff explains. “And accounting is very similar. There’s a lot of rules, processes, guidelines, and regulatory compliance.”

Steinhoff served as a machinist mate auxiliary on the USS Alabama (the submarine featured in the movie Crimson Tide). His job required extraordinary precision. As he describes, “Everything you touch on the boat, if you want to take a bolt off, you have to document it. There are procedures you have to follow.” This rigorous documentation mirrors accounting’s fundamental requirement to record and verify every transaction.

The military’s verification systems also parallel accounting’s internal controls. Steinhoff points to the “two-party check” system used on submarines. “If one person wanted to go do work, they would go through independent verification, and then the other person would independently do it.” This approach is remarkably similar to the separation of duties in accounting, where different people handle different parts of a transaction to reduce errors and fraud.

The stakes in both environments are high. On a submarine, “There’s no option for mistakes.” A failed oxygen system means disaster for the entire crew. While accounting errors might not immediately threaten lives, they can certainly threaten livelihoods, affecting businesses, jobs, and investments.

Using Military Benefits to Get an Accounting Education

For veterans considering accounting careers, education is the bridge between military experience and professional opportunity. Steinhoff’s path shows how military benefits can make high-quality accounting education affordable, even at prestigious private universities.

Steinhoff left the Navy in June 2020, just as the COVID-19 pandemic began. With uncertain civilian job prospects, he decided to use his GI Bill benefits for college.

“They pay you a little stipend to pay your rent and get you through college. They pay for your books, and they pay for your tuition,” Steinhoff explains. However, many veterans don’t realize they can maximize these benefits through programs like the Yellow Ribbon Act, which allowed him to attend Texas Christian University (TCU), a private school with an annual tuition of about $50,000.

“Most of the time the GI Bill pays for public schools, but with the Yellow Ribbon, the school makes a deal with the VA to split the difference,” he explains. “The school covers 50% and the VA covers 50%.”

Steinhoff treated college as a “full-time job,” completing a double major in finance and accounting in three years. Now, he’s using additional state-level benefits to pursue an MBA at the University of Texas at Dallas.

“Texas has a program called the Hazelwood Act, which gives you another 36 months of tuition-free education at a public school,” he notes. This combination of federal and state benefits provides a clear pathway to meet the 150 credit hours required for CPA licensure.

Creating Value in Accounting Through Military Experience

While education provides the technical foundation, it’s in the workplace where veterans like Steinhoff discover their military background creates unique advantages in accounting roles.

“In a small company, maybe there aren’t processes or procedures in place,” Steinhoff notes. “Coming from that military environment, I could write a procedure, train people, and create those processes.” This skill is particularly valuable in growing companies where accounting systems may not have kept pace with business expansion.

Steinhoff’s current role at a water utility company shows how military expertise finds unexpected applications in accounting. “They liked me a lot because there are not many accountants who have worked on water systems,” he explains. “From a submarine, that was my whole life. I could tell you how a pump works, I could tell you how the valves work.” This combination of technical operational knowledge with accounting skills enables him to understand the organization’s financial and physical infrastructure.

The military’s emphasis on translating complex technical information into actionable intelligence also serves veterans well, as accounting evolves beyond compliance toward business advisory roles. “Accountants are expected to take data and translate it,” Steinhoff observes. “Veterans fit this role because business owners want someone who can take numbers and translate them into easy-to-understand language.”

For veterans considering this career path, Steinhoff acknowledges the transition requires courage. “It’s a leap of faith. When you’re getting out of the military, it’s a big challenge because it’s this whole different world.” But he emphasizes that the responsibility given to service members far exceeds what most civilians experience at similar ages.

“The military gives 18-year-olds more responsibility than any other jobs. They put me on a submarine working on things where other lives are at risk,” he notes. “If you could do that, you could do this.”

A Win-Win Solution for Veterans and the Profession

The accounting profession faces a talent shortage and needs more analytical, tech-savvy professionals who can translate financial data into strategic insights. Meanwhile, thousands of disciplined, detail-oriented veterans transition to civilian life annually, bringing with them the exact qualities the profession desperately needs.

Mark Steinhoff’s journey from maintaining submarine life support systems to managing accounting operations for a water utility shows the natural connection between military service and accounting work. The procedural rigor required to keep sailors alive underwater is the perfect foundation for the exacting standards of accounting.

For veterans thinking about their next career, accounting offers a structured environment with clear advancement paths that will feel familiar after military service. With education benefits through the GI Bill and state programs like the Texas Hazelwood Act, the required accounting education is affordable without accumulating significant debt.

For accounting firms and businesses struggling to fill positions, veterans are an untapped resource, bringing maturity, discipline, and transferable skills. Their experience with high-pressure situations, procedure development, and translating complex information aligns perfectly with accounting’s evolution toward more strategic business advisory roles.

The accounting profession isn’t just about numbers; it’s about creating systems that provide reliable information for critical decisions. Veterans spend years operating in environments where systems thinking and procedural discipline aren’t just professional requirements but matters of survival.

Listen to the full Earmark podcast episode to hear Steinhoff’s complete story and gain more insights on transitioning from military service to accounting. His journey offers a blueprint for how the accounting profession might find its next generation of leaders from those who’ve already proven their ability to perform when the stakes couldn’t be higher.

From Homeless to $20 Billion Deals: An Accountant’s Journey Through Automation

Blake Oliver · August 4, 2025 ·

Fifteen years ago, Devon Coombs was sleeping in his car. Skip ahead, and he’s helping negotiate $20 billion AI deals at Google Cloud. His story isn’t just another rags-to-riches tale—it’s a preview of accounting’s future.

I interviewed Devon on the Earmark Podcast, and what struck me wasn’t his remarkable turnaround. It was his pattern recognition. Devon lived through technology’s destruction of the music industry. Now he’s watching the same forces reshape accounting. The difference? This time, he’s riding the wave instead of getting crushed.

The Recording Studio That Technology Killed

At 18, Devon owned Antipop Records in North Hollywood. He’d grown up in foster care. His mother died when he was 15, and he never met his father. But he had talent and a passion for music, so he did what passionate people do: invested everything in professional recording equipment.

Then Logic Pro happened.

“My rates went from $50-100 an hour to competing with guys charging ten bucks,” Devon told me. “Musicians could record in their kitchen and get 90% of my quality.”

The 2007 recession started the bleeding. Technology finished it. Devon’s $100,000 studio became worthless overnight. He ended up homeless, sleeping in his car, trying to figure out what went wrong.

Here’s what he learned: Technology doesn’t destroy industries. It destroys intermediaries. Musicians who could compose, produce, and distribute music thrived with infinite digital instruments at their fingertips. Recording engineers and session musicians who only executed other people’s visions? They became extinct.

The Community College Revelation

While living in his car, Devon started taking business classes at Pierce College, a community college in the San Fernando Valley. He planned to become a music attorney. But accounting grabbed him instead.

“I was surprised by how much I liked doing the work,” he says. The profession also offered something Devon had never experienced: predictable career progression and financial security.

His first internship taught him an unexpected lesson. The CPA who hired him was successful despite being disorganized and barely keeping clients happy. “If this guy could make bank being this scattered,” Devon thought, “imagine what I could do if I actually tried.”

1,000 Cold Calls and One Big Bet

At Deloitte, first-year associates reconcile bank statements. Devon had other plans. He made 1,000 cold calls and emails to controllers across Los Angeles.

His pitch was brilliant in its honesty: “I’m new at Deloitte. I want to learn. Give me your time, and I promise you’ll get more attention from me than from any partner here.”

It worked. He landed GoGuardian as a client—one of the first ASC 606 implementations in the country. The partner told him it would never work. Nobody wins clients as a first-year associate.

Deloitte gave Devon a $100 bonus for bringing in a $100,000 client. That’s when he knew the Big Four model wasn’t for him. When Effectus Group offered to double his salary plus commission, he jumped.

Becoming the 606 Expert

ASC 606 was rolling out, and nobody understood it. The guidance ran thousands of pages. Most accountants waited for CPE courses to explain it.

Devon printed every page.

“I’d read 30 pages every night, then figure out how to apply it,” he explained. In two years, he completed over ten implementations across industries—software companies, call centers, and even nonprofits.

Six months into his new job, he won Automation Anywhere as a client. A multibillion-dollar unicorn choosing a boutique firm over the Big Four. Why? Because Devon knew 606 better than anyone.

“Put in six months of deep work on any technical topic,” he told me, “and you’ll blow everyone else out of the water.”

The AI Orchestrator Revolution

Today, at Google Cloud, Devon helps negotiate billion-dollar AI deals. But here’s what matters: He’s not just selling AI. He’s living the future of professional services.

“Agentic workflows,” he calls them. AI bots handle routine tasks while humans orchestrate the work. “You’ll have bots calling companies, and no one will know they’re bots. All those little tasks in between? Just bots talking to each other.”

It’s the music industry all over again. Technology eliminates executors and elevates orchestrators. The accountants who only know how to follow procedures? They’re the session musicians of the 2010s. The ones who can design systems, manage AI workflows, and apply judgment? They’re the producers.

Devon is now leaving Google for PCG (Principal Consulting Group), where he’ll build a practice around this orchestrator model. His goal: “better quality work with higher judgment applied with all my expertise and one-tenth the cost.”

Your Window Is Closing

Recording studios were given years of warning, but they ignored it. By the time musicians started canceling sessions, the game was over.

Accounting firms today are experiencing the same warning signs: clients questioning fees, staff leaving for tech companies, and AI tools handling basic bookkeeping. The script is playing out again.

But unlike Devon’s recording studio, we can see it coming. We can choose to be orchestrators instead of executors. We can build practices around AI enhancement instead of human grinding.

The transformation isn’t some distant future. Devon’s already building it. He’s creating an entirely new service model where CPAs orchestrate AI agents to deliver superior results at a fraction of traditional costs.

“The AI movement is our chance to add real value,” Devon insists. “But only if we lean in now.”

Listen to the full episode to understand how to position yourself for this shift. Because Devon’s journey proves one thing: Those who embrace disruption don’t just survive. They discover possibilities they never imagined existed.

The question isn’t whether AI will transform accounting. It’s whether you’ll be the orchestrator or become obsolete. Devon made his choice. What’s yours?

From Burnout to Blueprint: How One CPA Built a $200K Practice Working Just 15 Hours a Week

Blake Oliver · April 15, 2025 ·

When Erica Goode, CPA, became a mother, she found herself juggling late-night work sessions and hectic commutes. It took a toll on her well-being. “I was going to prove to everybody that working moms can do it all,” she recalls, “and I did it all. But it felt awful.”

Fast-forward a few years, and Erica now runs an accounting practice making over $200,000 yearly—on less than 15 hours of work per week. How did she do it? Through intentional constraints, deep specialization, and refusing to let burnout define her career.

Erica’s story, which she shared on the Earmark Podcast, offers a roadmap for accounting professionals who want to build financially rewarding practices without sacrificing quality of life.

Escape from Corporate Burnout

Erica’s career began at KPMG, where she moved up the ranks to senior auditor. She was then recruited to Walgreens in Deerfield, Illinois, where a demanding promotion collided with early motherhood. 

Even with on-site childcare, the constant scramble to manage deadlines and family obligations was a struggle. “I was always dragging my kids behind me to make a meeting, to get back home to make dinner, only to hop back online until 10:00. It was just this grind I didn’t want,” she says.

Feeling trapped, Erica took a demotion to escape the grueling schedule. Ultimately, she decided to leave Walgreens entirely and planned to become a stay-at-home mom. She never imagined running an accounting firm. When her boss suggested it after she gave notice, she remembers thinking, “That is the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard.” 

An Accidental First Client

Erica never planned to start her firm. It started when she offered to help the owner of her daughter’s Taekwondo studio with QuickBooks. “I had never seen QuickBooks because I’d always worked with huge systems like SAP or Oracle,” she says. But Erica learned quickly, and soon, a steady stream of referrals turned her “accidental” freelance gig into a bona fide practice.

Growth was slow by design. Balancing parenting with minimal childcare hours, Erica allowed her client base to expand only as her children’s school schedules opened up. “I literally was only growing as fast as preschool grew,” she jokes. This deliberate approach allowed her to refine processes at each stage instead of piling on hours.

Designing a 15-Hour Workweek

Erica’s top priority was to avoid the relentless schedule that had led to burnout. She set a strict 15-hour limit, working Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., with a mandatory one-hour lunch away from the computer. “That adds up to 18 hours, but I don’t count the lunch break,” she explains. “So I’m really working 15 hours or less.”

While this schedule might seem impossible, Erica credits well-documented standard operating procedures and intentional use of technology for optimizing efficiency. She also hired a non-US-based contractor as a senior bookkeeper. Together, they ensure bookkeeping tasks stay on track without Erica needing to handle every detail. “I want to be the reviewer and the exception-finder,” she says. “That’s where the real client value lies.”

Tech Stack: QuickBooks Online and Fathom

A big part of Erica’s efficiency stems from QuickBooks Online paired with Fathom. QuickBooks automates the bulk of data entry, while Fathom handles real-time reporting and forecasting. “Once I close the books in QuickBooks, Fathom syncs automatically and spits out a customized monthly report for each client,” she says.

She personalizes these reports for each of her 10 clients, highlighting the KPIs and trends most relevant to consultants. But the real game-changer is the forecasting feature. During monthly meetings, she and the client jump into Fathom to update forecasts on hiring plans, upcoming expenses, and potential new revenue. “Business owners love seeing a clear picture of how decisions today will affect their cash flow in six months,” Erica says.

Specialization: Consultants and Agencies Only

At the core of her approach is strict specialization. Erica focuses exclusively on consultants and small B2B agencies—no construction companies, no retail inventory. This uniformity keeps her processes consistent, allowing her to offer clear service tiers and simple pricing. She maintains three tiers:

  1. Bookkeeping ($500–$600/month)
  2. Mini CFO ($1,400/month)
  3. Fractional CFO (up to $5,000/month)

“There’s a huge gap for solopreneurs or small consultancies that need more than just bookkeeping but aren’t ready to pay $3,000 a month for a CFO,” she says. The middle tier solves that issue. Because she only accepts businesses operating within a well-defined niche, the bulk of her bookkeeping and forecasting tasks can be systematized.

The Power of Monthly CFO Meetings

Although she provides “done-for-you” bookkeeping, Erica finds the most significant client value comes from monthly CFO calls. “We’ll spend maybe 20% of the time reviewing the monthly report. Then the rest is what’s on the client’s mind—like, ‘I’m hiring two people. Will I run out of cash by October?’” she explains. Together, they plug those assumptions into Fathom so clients can see real-time outcomes.

“They get clarity on big decisions, whether it’s paying themselves consistently, timing a new hire, or maximizing retirement contributions,” she notes. And it’s precisely this hands-on advisory that justifies her subscription model. Even when clients weigh downgrading services, they quickly realize the CFO session is what they value most.

Why She Doesn’t Do Tax Prep

One key departure from many CPA firms: Erica does not handle income tax filings. Instead, she collaborates with clients’ existing tax preparers or refers them to an outside specialist. “I come in as the translator,” she says, acting as the liaison between client and preparer. By avoiding tax busywork, she preserves her bandwidth for strategic discussions and the recurring monthly engagements that truly move the needle for her clients.

Growing Slowly—on Purpose

Today, Erica’s firm earns around $200,000 in annual revenue, with a net of about $180,000. It took around five or six years to reach this point, largely because she refused to exceed her self-imposed 15-hour weekly limit or expand beyond her one contractor. “I know the formula to scale bigger,” she says, “but I also know that I enjoy my life more without adding complexities.”

A telling story: She once tried removing herself from capacity constraints and realized she risked falling back into the same burnout patterns she had fled. “I’m quick to fire if the client isn’t a good fit, and I stick to my niche,” she emphasizes. “I’m not looking to become a million-dollar firm with multiple CPAs. That’s just not the lifestyle I want.”

Rethinking Practice Success

For Erica, success means earning a healthy income without sacrificing time with her kids or her passions—like hiking in the vast national forests of Idaho. She’s proof that a smaller, highly specialized practice can be profitable and deeply rewarding. “I used to be afraid to say out loud that I only work 15 hours,” she confesses. “But now I see it inspires other CPAs who don’t want the 40- to 60-hour grind.”

Her advice is simple: start small, niche down, price for value, and automate relentlessly. If you’re willing to challenge traditional accounting firm norms, you can build a practice that prioritizes both client results and your well-being.

Learn More & Earn Free CPE

Erica shares more insights and tips on her podcast, Consultants and Money, where she offers free advice on everything from planning cash reserves to consistently paying oneself. 

Check out her interview on the Earmark Podcast to hear the full story of how she structured her 15-hour week. 

You can also earn CPE for listening! Register for the free CPE course on the Earmark app.

How to Use AI to Analyze Data and Draft Financial Reports in Minutes

Blake Oliver · April 10, 2025 ·

Imagine being able to turn 4 hours of tedious financial analysis into just a few short minutes, all while uncovering valuable insights you never knew were possible. For those in accounting and finance who often find themselves overwhelmed by spreadsheets and manual reports, this isn’t just a pipe dream—it’s becoming a reality today.

On a recent episode of my Earmark Podcast, I had a great conversation with Nicolas Boucher, who focuses on how artificial intelligence can be used in accounting and finance. We discussed how AI is no longer just a topic of theories and ideas; instead, it’s becoming a valuable tool that is changing the way people in finance do their jobs every day.

The Growing Adoption of AI in Accounting

The accounting field is undergoing a big change with the use of AI. Nicolas notes that in the past, only about 20% of accountants used this technology, but now that number has grown to around 50%. This increasing adoption indicates that more accountants are starting to embrace AI in their work.

“Every three to six months there is a new phase of adoption,” Nicolas explained to me. “Two years ago, almost nobody was using it… then six months after, you had 20-30% of people starting to use it for emails, but then the technologists started using it for financial analysis.”

This adoption happens in waves, with each new phase bringing more sophisticated applications. While early adopters began with simple tasks like drafting emails, many are now creating custom AI agents and analyzing complex financial data.

Practical Examples of AI in Financial Analysis

Cohort Analysis for SaaS Businesses

Nicolas demonstrated how a SaaS business cohort analysis—typically used to track customer retention rates over time—can be transformed from a 3-4 hour task into a minutes-long process.

By uploading a simple dataset with dates, customer IDs, products, and invoice amounts to ChatGPT with a brief prompt to “do a cohort analysis visually,” he produced a sophisticated heatmap visualization showing retention rates across different customer cohorts.

“If you never did it [manually], you will probably need one day because you will have so much trial and error,” Nicolas noted, highlighting the dramatic time savings.

Salary Distribution Analysis Using Box Plots

Perhaps even more valuable than time savings is AI’s ability to suggest visualization techniques that many finance professionals may never have considered. Nicolas shared a powerful example of ChatGPT suggesting using box plots for salary distribution analysis—a visualization method he hadn’t applied despite 15 years in finance.

“The first time I saw the output of the analysis of salaries… I was like, wow. This is actually the best way to show a distribution of salary. After 15 years of finance, I never used that,” Nicolas recalled.

The box plot clearly displayed salary ranges across departments, showing minimum, maximum, and outlier values in a way that averages alone could never reveal. This discovery was so impactful that Nicolas thought, “This is going to change all our lives.”

Automated Financial Reporting

Nicolas also demonstrated a tool called Concourse.io that connects directly with QuickBooks Online and NetSuite to automatically generate comprehensive financial reports.

The tool automatically generates a complete report with executive summaries, revenue analysis, cost analysis, and customizable sections—all with both narrative commentary and visualizations.

Overcoming Implementation Challenges

While AI’s potential for finance is clear, many accounting professionals have hesitated to adopt these tools due to four key concerns:

  1. Data confidentiality: Uploading sensitive financial information to third-party AI platforms
  2. Auditability: Verifying AI calculations and tracing how results were generated
  3. Processing limitations: Most AI tools cannot handle large financial datasets
  4. Scalability: The inefficiency of repeatedly prompting AI for the same analysis

Solutions for Data Security and Auditability

Nicolas demonstrated an ingenious workaround that addresses these concerns. After using ChatGPT to generate a visualization, he asks it to provide the underlying Python code that created the chart. He then copies this code to Google Colab, a free browser-based tool from Google that allows users to run Python code.

“Now it solves the confidentiality of data because you are not in ChatGPT, you are inside your Google environment,” Nicolas explained. “And for auditability, here I can see the source… It’s not random. It’s not like a black box. You can see all of it.”

For professionals who aren’t comfortable with code, Nicolas showed how to implement AI-suggested techniques directly in Excel. For example, after discovering box plots, he asked ChatGPT to provide step-by-step instructions for creating these visualizations in Excel using the “Box and Whiskers” chart option.

Ensuring Proper Data Protection

When selecting AI tools, Nicolas emphasized the importance of proper data security:

“Make sure your team is using it without fear of data security. These tools use the best standards in terms of data security. If you sign a contract with them, you can read the data security protocol and make sure you opt out for data training, which is normally standard.”

For those using ChatGPT, he recommends the Teams account, which has data protection built in, rather than the Pro account, which requires explicit opt-out of data training.

The Evolving Role of Finance Professionals

As artificial intelligence changes how we handle financial analysis, the work of finance professionals is also changing. Instead of taking away jobs, these new tools help professionals focus on more important tasks that add greater value.

“Instead of spending a week with five people building a report, it’s just going to be 30 minutes of work. Then you can reinvest that time analyzing which vendors are good or bad, and working with procurement to make some savings,” Nicolas explained.

This shift addresses a long-standing aspiration in finance. “We talk a lot about business partnering and adding value. But when people are behind their Excel files, they cannot do a lot of this,” Nicolas pointed out. AI tools free finance professionals from the technical burden of report creation, allowing them to focus on strategic interpretation.

The evolution comes at an opportune time for the profession, which faces staffing challenges. “You have less people coming into accounting jobs. You have many people retiring. The turnover is really high,” Nicolas noted. 

Organizations that adopt AI tools not only improve efficiency but also enhance their appeal to potential employees by offering more meaningful work.

Getting Started with AI in Finance

When selecting AI tools, Nicolas advised focusing on integration with existing systems:

“If you are already embedded in Microsoft—you use Outlook, SharePoint, Power BI, Azure—it makes sense to go with Copilot,” he explained. Similarly, organizations using Google’s ecosystem should consider Gemini. For smaller organizations without specific ecosystem requirements, ChatGPT provides a flexible solution.

For those looking to develop AI skills, Nicolas recommends following experts on platforms like LinkedIn and YouTube. “It’s crazy to see how much people can learn and implement in just two hours of training,” he says.

He also created a community called the AI Finance Club, where finance professionals can stay current on AI developments. “Every week we provide the most important content in the form of guides, masterclasses, or video courses where experts teach the best ways to use AI for finance.”

From Spreadsheet Specialists to Strategic Advisors

This isn’t just about getting new tools; it’s about a complete shift in how financial experts provide value to their companies.

These technologies are not just about saving time; they actually improve the quality of analysis while keeping data safe and accurate. Incorporating AI doesn’t mean losing control or risking the quality of data.

The professionals who will do well in this new environment won’t necessarily be the ones who are great at coding or become technology experts. Instead, success will come to those who know how to use these tools wisely—making good decisions while letting AI take care of routine tasks in financial analysis.

This change opens up a real opportunity to fulfill the promise of being strategic partners in business, a goal finance professionals have talked about for years. When they are free from making basic reports, finance experts can focus on analyzing insights and providing the valuable guidance that truly drives business success.


Did you find this article helpful? Listen to my full conversation with Nicolas Boucher on the Earmark Podcast for more practical examples and step-by-step guidance on using AI for financial analysis. Plus, you can earn free CPE for listening to the episode or watching the video with the Earmark app.

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