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From Spreadsheets to Raids: What Happens When We Defund Financial Oversight

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Three years ago, Fox News host Greg Gutfeld warned viewers that 87,000 new IRS agents would create a “police state.” Today, armed ICE agents are going door-to-door in Minneapolis without warrants, investigating financial fraud. In other words, doing the work accountants would normally do with spreadsheets and calculators.

“We’ve replaced armed IRS agents with armed ICE agents doing work for the IRS,” says David Leary, co-host of The Accounting Podcast, still trying to process this turn of events. “I’ve lost sleep over this.”

In their latest episode, David and co-host Blake Oliver connect the dots between the 2022 fight over IRS funding and today’s reality in Minnesota, where billions in fraud have led to what they call a predictable but devastating outcome.

Minnesota’s Billion-Dollar Fraud Problem

The numbers coming out of Minnesota are staggering. On December 19th, prosecutors announced charges against more than 90 people across multiple public assistance programs. The fraud schemes read like a criminal playbook: daycares that collected $110 million through fake claims, the Feeding Our Future scandal that stole nearly $250 million in pandemic food aid, autism services billing for work never performed, using unqualified staff, and housing stabilization fraud.

A federal warrant has flagged 14 Medicare programs with significant fraud problems. The potential losses are in the billions.

“This is fraud that has taken place over many years,” David explains. The investigation has been ongoing for a while, but the political fallout came fast. Trump accused Somali immigrants of widespread fraud. A YouTuber documentary filmmaker went to Minnesota and started visiting these daycares, creating viral content that painted Minnesota as corrupt on all fronts.

In response, Trump sent 2,000 ICE agents to carry out what he called “the largest immigration operation ever.”

But here’s where it gets interesting for accountants. As Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin explained on a radio show, “Right now, on the ground in Minneapolis, Homeland Security investigators are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites. It’s daycare centers or healthcare centers and businesses around them as well.”

No warrants. Just agents showing up at doors.

Compare that to what happened just 30 days earlier at Taco Giro in Tucson. ICE and IRS Criminal Investigation spent years building a case, got proper warrants, then executed 16 search warrants as part of their investigation into immigration and tax violations. That’s how law enforcement used to work: investigation, evidence, warrants, then action.

“Raids have replaced audits and guns have replaced spreadsheets,” David observes.

The Time Machine: Back to 2022

To understand how we got here, Blake and David take listeners back to April 18, 2022. As explained in episode 292 of what was then called the Cloud Accounting Podcast, that’s when the IRS was set to receive $80 billion through the Inflation Reduction Act, including funding for 87,000 new enforcement agents.

The political response was fierce. They replay a segment featuring enrolled agent Adam Markowitz, whose tweet went viral and got him attacked on Fox News. Markowitz wrote, “All of my GOP friends who are worried about the 87,000 IRS enforcement agents coming after the little guy. How about just don’t cheat on tax returns?”

Gutfeld’s response on Fox was brutal, calling Markowitz a “schmuck” and warning viewers, “If you have an IQ higher than an artichoke, you must see that by now, this country is heading towards a police state.”

“The police state still happened,” David points out. “We didn’t avoid it.”

The hosts then shared a detail most people missed. In November 2024, a federal judge blocked the IRS from further record sharing with ICE. But the court documents revealed the IRS had already handed over tens of thousands of taxpayer records to ICE, including home addresses. ICE had requested more than one million records from the IRS.

“This might be the reason Billy Long is out,” David speculates about the departed IRS commissioner nominee. “He might have been pushing back on this.”

Following the Money (Or Not)

The pattern is clear to anyone who understands accounting controls. Over the past decade, Congress repeatedly cut the IRS budget while increasing funding for ICE. They shifted from investigation and fines to enforcement.

“Taxes dictate social policies,” David notes. “Budgets also do that. What you fund and budget is what the government is going to do.”

The result is less nonprofit oversight, slower detection of payroll and benefits fraud, and fewer audits. The absence of all those controls that seemed expensive created billions in fraud.

“We’re in the golden age of fraud,” David warns. “Maybe the new Enron is not one company; it’s just billions and billions and billions of small frauds because we’ve cut all of the controls that might catch it.”

Blake connects this to broader economic concerns. According to a Harris poll, 45% of Americans believe their financial security is worsening. Even 45% of Republicans think the economy is in a recession, despite GDP growth of 4.3% in Q3.

“If you’re the president and you don’t want people paying attention to the economy, what do you do?” Blake asks. “You start foreign conflicts or you create internal conflict.”

The Profession’s Own Control Problems

The accounting profession has its own control problem. The AICPA recently proposed major ethics rule changes for firms backed by private equity, worried that outside money could compromise auditor independence.

Under the new rules, firms can’t escape independence requirements by simply creating separate legal entities. If a CPA firm depends on a non-CPA entity for staff and infrastructure, they’re treated as one unit for independence purposes. PE-backed firms also can’t audit portfolio companies in the same fund.

“As CPAs, we stand for independence, objectivity, ethics,” Blake emphasizes. “Nobody else can do audits.”

But existing controls don’t always have teeth. The hosts discuss WH Smith, the historic British retailer. Their audit firm, PwC, missed profit misstatements that cost shareholders 600 million pounds. Yet the board recommended keeping PwC as their auditor.

“An auditor can cost a company half a billion dollars and they keep their contract,” David says, incredulous. “If anyone else failed that badly, you would fire them.”

The Lesson for Accountants

“Everything’s an accounting story,” David insists, and this one hits close to home.

The Minnesota fraud crisis shows what happens when you defund financial oversight. The 2022 IRS debate shows how fear of government overreach led to the exact outcome critics wanted to avoid. The profession’s own struggles with independence and accountability show these patterns repeat everywhere.

“If you have underfunded controls and you don’t have preventive measures, it always shows up as a very big expense,” David explains. “One time it was Enron. Now the expense is humans getting shot.”

Accountants talking to clients about taxes can do their part by explaining where that money goes and why controls matter. Because the alternative—as Minnesota shows—is much worse.

Blake and David dig deeper into these connections in the full episode, including their take on California’s proposed billionaire tax, why wars boost economies, and what Excel championship winners can teach us about efficiency. Listen to the complete discussion above or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Accounting Profession Has AI Completely Backwards

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When Accounting Today surveyed industry thought leaders about AI’s impact on the profession, every expert agreed that AI would automate the boring stuff like bank reconciliations, data entry, and transaction matching while humans would rise to strategic advisory work. Not one thought their own job was at risk.

On a recent episode of The Accounting Podcast, hosts Blake Oliver and David Leary did something clever. They fed the same questions to ChatGPT, asking it to respond as an accounting thought leader. The AI’s answers were just as good as the human experts’.

“None of the accounting thought leaders think their job could be replaced,” David said, “which is crazy because essentially AI can at least do the thought leader job.”

Blake and David argue that the profession has AI’s impact exactly backwards. While everyone confidently predicts automation will eliminate mundane bookkeeping tasks, the technology actually excels at synthesis, narrative-building, and strategic analysis—the very work that defines “thought leadership.”

What AI Actually Does Well

The standard story about AI in accounting is machines will handle the boring, repetitive tasks while humans ascend to strategic advisory work. It’s comforting and logical. But according to Blake and David, it’s completely wrong.

“AI can take financial statement information and turn it into a narrative better than I can, better than almost anyone can at this point,” Blake states. “That’s what we should be using it for.”

Consider Mike Salvatore, a Chicago business owner with two cafes, two bars, and a bike shop. He used to analyze his cost of goods once or twice a year, spending hours crunching numbers. Now he does it every three weeks by feeding data from QuickBooks and his point-of-sale system into Google’s NotebookLM, which creates a podcast-style summary of his business performance. He sends these AI-generated recordings to his managers.

“It’s essentially my CFO,” Salvatore told The Wall Street Journal.

This isn’t AI doing mundane bookkeeping; it’s performing executive-level analysis and communication.

Blake’s own experience drives the point home. He built an AI system that turns news articles into detailed research notes and social media posts. That work used to eat up hours each week. He also trained an AI ghost writer on hundreds of his past writings. Now he can dictate a voice memo and get back a polished article in his own style.

“Basically, it has made it so, as ‘thought leader,’ I don’t do any of that anymore,” he admits. “It’s like I have a team that does that for me. I started working out and I’m just enjoying life.”

Meanwhile, the supposedly “easy” transactional work is stubbornly resistant to automation. David, who spent years taking QuickBooks support calls before co-founding the podcast, gets fired up about this misconception.

“Matching bank feeds is not bookkeeping. That’s just matching,” he argues. “Accounting is sending an invoice to somebody so they’ll pay me.”

He describes his recent struggle trying to upload an invoice to a client portal. It’s a “mundane” task that should be simple but isn’t. The process requires navigating confusing interfaces, making contextual decisions, and handling exceptions that don’t fit predetermined patterns. AI can’t do this reliably because it lacks the real-world context that humans take for granted.

The disconnect is striking. Thought leaders keep repeating the same message they’ve preached about cloud accounting for a decade: technology will free you up for advisory work. But as David points out, “I don’t think AI is freeing up your time to do that work yourself.” Instead, AI is doing the advisory work directly.

Are You Willing to See the Opportunity?

Where things get interesting is the same AI capabilities that threaten thought leaders create a massive opportunity for regular practitioners if they’re willing to see it.

Mike Salvatore, the Chicago business owner interviewed by the Wall Street Journal, wasn’t working with an accountant before. His AI “CFO” didn’t displace a human. He simply started getting insights he’d never received.

“Very few accountants serving Main Street businesses will actually do that kind of work for a price these business owners want to pay,” Blake explains. “So they do it themselves, but they don’t do it often and they don’t do it well.”

AI is filling a vacuum, not replacing existing services. And that vacuum is huge.

If a business owner can get advisory insights that are even 50-80% accurate from AI, that’s better than the nothing they’re getting now. The question for accounting firms is whether to let clients figure this out themselves or to offer AI-powered advisory services with professional oversight.

“Firms can feed data from clients’ QuickBooks files and their point of sale systems into these tools to generate AI analysis,” Blake suggests. “You can charge for it, because you’re adding the oversight—checking the numbers, making sure it actually makes sense.”

David connects this to a decade-old challenge. He remembers when LivePlan tried to train bookkeepers to offer business planning services. “They really struggled with it because they’re good at bookkeeping. But it’s hard to teach somebody to tell a story and create the narrative around the numbers.”

Now, “all those bookkeepers can basically offer that with AI out of the box and charge for that additional service.”

When ChatGPT (playing the role of thought leader) was asked what would make it worry about being replaced, it gave a revealing answer: clients accepting “AI-generated advice as good enough, even in ambiguous scenarios.”

Blake’s interpretation is blunt. “That’s what AI will fill—the gap in the market where accountants aren’t providing the service. There’s a big gap and there aren’t enough of us.”

Why Billable Hours Kill Innovation

One survey question asked about the “AI premium.” How much more should an AI-savvy accountant earn compared to an identical colleague who doesn’t use AI? The thought leaders said these employees should obviously be paid more.

Blake laughed at this. “How can you pay them more if you’re looking at them in terms of billable hours? AI is going to actually reduce their billable hours, not add more.”

If an employee uses AI to finish work in half the time, they bill half the hours. Under the traditional model, they look less productive, not more. Under the traditional model, “you should pay the AI employees less because they’re working less,” Blake points out.

This creates a ridiculous situation where your most innovative, efficient employees appear to be your worst performers.

Ryan Lazanis, who built and sold an accounting firm and now coaches other firm owners, has a different approach. He focuses on just two numbers: bottom-line profit and monthly recurring revenue. Not billable hours, utilization rates, or time per client.

“He is not breaking it down by client. He’s not looking at individual job profitability,” Blake explains. The only thing that matters is whether the firm made money over the year.

This makes sense because staff costs are fixed. “The amount of hours they spend has no impact on your profitability,” Blake notes. You only need to worry if one client is so demanding they prevent you from taking on others.

“You don’t have to track hours for months to figure out which clients are eating up your profits,” David adds. “You just go to your team and say, ‘Who’s the biggest pain in the ass client?’ And they’re going to tell you.”

There’s also a technical angle to consider. Blake cites research showing AI is nearly 100% accurate on tasks that take humans 4-5 minutes. That accuracy drops for longer tasks, but the threshold is “doubling every seven months.” By the end of 2026, AI might handle 10- to 20-minute tasks reliably.

But this only matters if firms can capture the productivity gains. Under billable hours, faster work just means more hours to fill. Under outcome-based metrics, faster work means more capacity for growth.

Is the AI Accounting Influencer Coming?

As the episode wraps up, Blake and David float an idea that captures the absurdity of the current moment. They’re considering creating an AI accounting influencer—a completely artificial thought leader to see if it can build a following comparable to real industry voices.

“Let’s make an AI accounting influencer and see if we can build its following to eclipse that of those real influencers,” Blake suggests. They could have it write newsletters, create content, maybe even land sponsorship deals.

It’s partly a joke, but it makes a serious point. If an AI can answer thought leadership survey questions as well as humans, write articles, and provide strategic insights, what exactly makes human thought leaders irreplaceable?

The answer might be less comfortable than the profession wants to admit.

Looking Ahead

The Accounting Today survey offered some important insights, though probably not what it intended. The people most confident about AI’s limited impact are those whose work AI does best. When ChatGPT generated answers indistinguishable from human experts, it demonstrated the very vulnerability those experts deny.

The real story is that AI excels at synthesis and narrative, which are the heart of advisory work, but struggles with the contextual, exception-filled world of everyday bookkeeping.

Firm owners should rethink their services to capture the advisory opportunity AI makes possible, and abandon billable hours before they strangle your ability to innovate.

For individual practitioners doing transactional work, the news is actually good. Your skills remain valuable precisely because your work requires the messy, contextual judgment that AI lacks.

And for thought leaders? As David observed with obvious frustration, the elitist attitude that “I’m better than you” has been in accounting for 30 years. “The reality is completely opposite. People are completely missing what’s really going to be replaced by AI.”

The race isn’t between humans and machines. It’s between practitioners who recognize AI’s true capabilities and those who cling to comfortable narratives while missing the transformation happening around them.

To hear more about Blake’s AI-powered lifestyle, David’s thoughts on what bookkeeping really is, and their plan to create an AI influencer that might outperform the human ones, listen to episode 469 of The Accounting Podcast.

From Data Entry Nightmare to Automated Workflow in One Demo Session

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You’re ten days away from the 1099 and W-2 deadline, and you’re still wrestling with QuickBooks, fielding a flood of W-9 request emails, and dreading the inevitable data entry marathon. Sound familiar?

You’re not the only one. As David Leary admitted during a recent Earmark Expo webinar, “I’ve been procrastinating on issuing 1099s. It’s just not a great experience.” He described the dual frustration that many accountants know all too well. “It’s annoying work on both sides. I need to do my 1099s, but then, as a business that receives them, I get a slew of emails from other companies asking for a W-9.”

In the webinar, David and co-host Blake Oliver took TaxBandits for a test drive with Nikita Sullivent, the company’s Support Specialist, to explore how this IRS-authorized e-file platform handles over 70 tax forms. The live demo included the authentic technical hiccups we all face with real-world software and shared practical solutions for the compliance challenges that hit every January.

Getting your data in: from hours to minutes

Manual data entry for hundreds of 1099s is a bottleneck that keeps you from serving more clients. TaxBandits tackles this with multiple import options that meet you where your data lives.

The platform offers three main paths for getting data in. You can:

  1. Enter forms manually one at a time (perfect for that forgotten contractor),
  2. Use bulk upload templates for larger volumes, or
  3. Connect directly with accounting software (current integrations include QuickBooks Online, Xero, Sage Intacct, and Zoho, with Karbon integration coming soon).

The bulk upload process stands out for its simplicity. As Nikita demonstrated, “You’re reviewing the columns at the top and inputting the data beneath them. Once we have all of that data input, we’ll just download it as a CSV and drag and drop it in.”

David particularly appreciated one detail. “I like how on your templates, in the header of each column, you give the instructions for the values you accept in that field.” No more guessing whether to use “CA” or “California,” or whether TINs need dashes.

The workflow breaks down like this:

  1. Download the Excel template with clear column headers
  2. Fill in your data following the built-in instructions for each field
  3. Drag and drop the file into TaxBandits
  4. Review the automatic error check that flags issues like missing digits in EINs or duplicate records
  5. Fix any problems by either editing in the app or exporting just the error records for correction

For QuickBooks users wondering about the process, David confirmed you can export your vendor list, filter for 1099 vendors, and use the “upload your own file” feature. The first time requires mapping your fields to TaxBandits’ fields, but that mapping saves for future uploads.

One webinar attendee asked whether they needed to re-enter last year’s payees. “Absolutely not,” Nikita answered. “Everything stays in your account and rolls over year after year.” When you import this year’s data and the system finds a duplicate, you can either delete it or update the existing record with any changes.

The platform also distinguishes between importing only recipient data and importing both payer and recipient data. If you maintain TaxBandits throughout the year, importing just recipients during filing season works best since you’ve already set up your payers. But if you’re adding everything at once, the combined import saves steps.

With data flowing smoothly into the system, the next challenge is ensuring that data won’t bounce back from the IRS.

TIN verification: the new compliance reality

Getting data into the system efficiently matters only if it passes IRS validation. The agency’s transition from the FIRE system to IRIS (Information Returns Intake System) brings stricter requirements that every accountant needs to understand.

“The IRIS system is going to be far stricter on TIN matching than the FIRE system was,” Nikita warns. “Which means if the SSN, the EIN, the TIN, and the recipient name don’t identically match the IRS database, it’s going to kick the form back to you as accepted with errors, and you have to file a correction.”

The keyword is “identically.” A contractor who goes by “Mike” but whose Social Security card reads “Michael” could trigger a rejection. Even punctuation differences in business names can cause problems.

TaxBandits builds TIN verification into multiple touchpoints:

  • When collecting W-9s throughout the year
  • When adding recipients to your address book
  • During the 1099 workflow as a final check

The smart approach starts early. “When you get a W-9, when you get a new employee or contractor, you go ahead and do the TIN matching on that prior to the filing season,” Nikita advised. This prevents last-minute surprises when deadlines loom.

Verification typically returns within two to four hours during normal periods. But during peak season “it can be up to 24 hours,” Nikita warned. If you’re verifying TINs within the 1099 workflow itself, the system waits for results before transmitting, which is potentially problematic if you’re filing on January 31st.

For those worried about the cost of corrections, TaxBandits offers some protection. Their “TaxBandits Commitment” covers correction filings at no additional charge. But even free corrections cost you time and stress.

The platform also streamlines W-9 collection. Instead of chasing paperwork, you can send electronic W-9 requests. Recipients complete them online, and the data flows directly into your TaxBandits account, ready for immediate TIN verification if desired.

Once your forms are prepared and verified, you still need to get them into recipients’ hands compliantly.

Distribution flexibility that actually works

The old choice between hours at the post office or forcing everyone into electronic delivery is over. Modern distribution needs flexibility, and TaxBandits delivers exactly that.

“Everything is very customizable to your needs,” Nikita explained when asked about mixing delivery methods. “You can choose some postal mail, some online access, and some want both.”

The three distribution paths each serve different needs:

  • USPS postal mailing handled entirely by TaxBandits
  • Electronic recipient portal requiring just an email address
  • Both options for recipients who want backup

The electronic portal solves a critical compliance issue. The IRS requires formal consent for electronic delivery, so you can’t just email a PDF. TaxBandits automates this. Recipients receive a secure link, enter a PIN for verification, and provide documented consent.

If someone ignores that email, the system tracks everything. You can see who consented, who declined, and who never responded and then handle postal delivery for the holdouts.

For returning recipients, the portal builds value over time. “If you file for that same recipient next year, they’ll use the same link, and they’ll access all of the documents from the same portal,” Nikita noted. Recipients get their own organized tax document archive without any extra work from you.

State filing adds another compliance layer, but TaxBandits simplifies this, too. The platform tells you exactly what each state requires:

  • States requiring direct filing (you handle separately)
  • Combined Federal/State Filing participants (automatic forwarding)
  • States requiring no 1099 filing

Throughout the process, you get real-time status updates so you can see which forms were transmitted to, received by, and accepted by the agency. For postal mail, statuses are submitted to USPS and en route to the recipient. When a client claims they never received their form, you have documentation. After transmission, watermarks disappear from your copies, and you can reprint professional versions anytime.

For firms with multiple preparers, the platform offers even more control through team management features.

Scaling with teams and support

Larger firms need more than just bulk upload; they need workflow management. TaxBandits’ team management features let you maintain control while delegating the actual work.

The system offers three permission levels:

  1. No roles: Any team member can prepare, approve, and transmit
  2. Two roles: Preparers create forms, approvers review and transmit
  3. Three roles: Preparers create, approvers review, transmitters handle payment and filing

You can also create location-based groups. Nikita shared an example. “Say you have a group in Indiana and a group in Tennessee. Anytime you add a new payer and assign them to the Tennessee group, then all of the team members included in the Tennessee group have access to that payer.”

Support is critical when things get complex. During busy season, TaxBandits extends hours to 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Eastern. They offer phone, email, and chat support, plus an AI assistant that pulls from both their knowledge base and IRS guidelines.

The platform’s YouTube channel provides step-by-step videos for specific workflows. For Sage Intacct users who asked about integration, Nikita recommended checking their channel for detailed walkthroughs showing the complete process from Sage to TaxBandits.

Pricing works on a credits system with bulk discounts. Buy more credits upfront, pay less per form—and credits never expire. As Nikita confirmed when asked about rollover, “Your credits will never expire. So if you want to purchase for the next five years now and get the best price we can give you, go for it.”

Making next year easier starts now

The strategies demonstrated in this webinar show a fundamentally different approach to information returns. TaxBandits treats compliance as a year-round process rather than a January panic.

The IRS’s push toward e-filing mandates and stricter validation isn’t slowing down. The IRIS system is just the beginning of modernization efforts that will continue tightening requirements. But the webinar demonstrated real workflows you can adopt immediately, from template imports to electronic W-9 collection to role-based team permissions.

Ready to transform your 1099 and W-2 workflow? Watch the full Earmark Expo webinar to see TaxBandits in action, including the complete demo of bulk uploads, error checking, and team management features. The platform offers over 70 tax forms beyond just 1099s and W-2s, making it a comprehensive solution for year-round compliance needs.

The Auditors Got Red Flags About $95 Million in Missing Funds and Signed Off Anyway

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In the last episode of 2025 of The Accounting Podcast, hosts Blake Oliver and David Leary kicked off the conversation with an unexpected problem: America is running out of pennies. David’s friend owns sandwich shops in Tucson and literally can’t get pennies from the bank anymore. Businesses are being forced to round to the nearest nickel, and point-of-sale systems are scrambling to adapt.

“Square admits one fifth of all the transactions on Square are still paid in cash,” David noted, highlighting how this seemingly small issue affects millions of daily transactions. The government claims there are 300 billion pennies in circulation, but as David pointed out, “Obviously this isn’t true because businesses all over America do not have pennies to use in transactions.”

But the penny shortage was just the warm-up. The hosts quickly moved to a much bigger story about missing money: $95 million vanished at Evolve Bank, yet the auditors still signed off on clean financial statements.

$95 Million Went Missing While Auditors Said Everything Was Fine

Blake followed the Evolve Bank story for years, and recent Freedom of Information Act requests uncovered stunning details about what the auditors knew and ignored.

Evolve Bank is a chartered bank that worked with Synapse, a “banking as a service” company that wasn’t a bank itself but managed the technology connecting consumer apps like Yotta and Juno to actual banks. When you used these apps, you’d see your balance, but you had no idea which bank actually held your money. Synapse managed all those details.

“Everything worked great until April 2024, when Synapse filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy and shut down operations,” Blake explained. Suddenly, the banks and the apps couldn’t figure out where customer money actually was. Evolve froze withdrawals from thousands of accounts, leaving people unable to access their own money for months.

When banks examined Synapse’s records, they found massive problems. Between $65 and $95 million in customer funds couldn’t be traced to any bank. “Your Juno account might say $10,000, and the bank that’s supposed to have the $10,000 says, ‘We don’t have it,’” Blake explained.

The most damaging revelation came from the 2023 audit. When Crowe, Evolve’s auditor at the time, asked Synapse to confirm cash balances, the response should have triggered immediate action. Evolve listed 113 accounts, but Synapse was missing 29 accounts from daily data feeds. Synapse’s general counsel asked to discuss the discrepancies with Evolve’s leadership.

Evolve never responded to that request, yet Crowe still issued a clean audit opinion.

“Ninety five million is a lot of money,” Blake observed. “It would be 6% to 7% of Evolve’s total assets, likely over 100% of their annual net income, a double digit percentage of equity capital in some years. And typically, materiality would be 1 or 2% of assets.”

Are SOC 2 Reports Worthless?

The Evolve disaster led the hosts to question other compliance frameworks, particularly SOC certifications that companies display as badges of trustworthiness.

“My guess is Synapse had their SOC 2, because it’s not that hard to get a SOC 2,” Blake said. “According to my understanding, it’s really just a lot of documentation of the controls. But there’s not necessarily any confirmation that those controls are being followed.”

“They paid the money and got the badge for their website,” David observed. 

The hosts also discussed how a New Jersey accounting firm, Sax, took 18 months to inform nearly 250,000 people about a data breach. The firm claimed it followed standard procedures and saw no evidence the stolen data was misused, but for 18 months, affected individuals had no idea their personal information might be compromised.

“People could be using your stolen identity fraudulently 18 months before the accounting firm lets you know,” David said.

The problem is that while firms must have Written Information Security Plans (WISPs), they’re not necessarily legally required to execute them properly. “We focus on the wrong thing,” David argued. “We focus on having a WISP, not actually executing the WISP.”

Partners Don’t Know What Partners Make

In a lighter but equally revealing segment, Blake shared his favorite LinkedIn post of the year from Chase Birky, CEO and Co-founder of Dark Horse CPAs. Chase shared that almost a third of partners don’t know how much partners make at their own firms.

“How do CPAs not know how much they make? Isn’t that sort of what we do?” Chase wrote. The problem stems from a lack of transparency at many firms where partner compensation is calculated in a “black box” and communicated well after the fact. This secrecy is at least part of the reason talent leaves public accounting.

“I left because I got offered a job in tech that paid a lot more,” Blake said, sharing his own experience. “I didn’t know how much a partner made, and nobody could tell me what the path looked like.”

Should Companies Report Twice a Year Instead of Four Times?

The hosts also debated President Trump’s suggestion that U.S. companies should move from quarterly to semi-annual reporting, like much of the rest of the world.

Research from the UK showed that changing reporting frequency had “virtually no impact on companies’ internal investment decisions.” Studies also found that quarterly reporting creates “noisier data” that benefits sophisticated investors while hurting everyday investors.

“We’re always talking about how we have too much work to do in accounting and we’re pressed for time,” Blake said. “What better way to give ourselves more time than to make it two times a year instead of four?”

David wondered if less frequent reporting might reduce the pressure to play accounting games. “Monthly reporting probably puts pressure on people to sidestep the rules because it’s so fast and you have to perform.”

Looking Ahead to 2026

The hosts wrapped up with predictions for the coming year. David was skeptical about AI transforming bookkeeping. “I don’t see me doing bookkeeping at the end of 2026 any differently than I did in 2025, 2024, 2023, or 2022.”

Blake disagreed, pointing to new AI browsers that can actually navigate accounting software and complete tasks. “The time is doubling every seven months,” he explained. “Within the next year, we’re going to see AI able to complete tasks that take 15 to 20 minutes with 100% accuracy.”

David also predicted that OpenAI would strike a multi-million dollar deal with the AICPA, that at least two AI companies would fail, and, in his easiest prediction, “Intuit will tick off accountants in 2026.”

The episode covered far more ground than can be captured here, from the technical details of audit failures to the future of AI in accounting. For the complete discussion and all the insights Blake and David shared in their final episode of 2025, listen to the full episode of The Accounting Podcast.

Two-Thirds of Accounting Staff Hate Private Equity—But Partners Love It

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Two-thirds of partners at private equity-backed accounting firms say they’re satisfied with their arrangements. But ask the staff actually doing the work, and you’ll hear a different story. Over half are dissatisfied, with one director calling the situation “a dumpster fire.”

This stark disconnect emerged from an Accounting Today survey discussed on The Accounting Podcast by hosts Blake Oliver and David Leary. The episode also revealed a disconnect in pricing. Tax preparers charge an average of just $280 for a basic 1040 (CPAs) or $228 (enrolled agents). These numbers had David asking incredulously, “Where are these people? I’ve never been quoted this low of a price.”

The Private Equity “Dumpster Fire”

The numbers from Accounting Today’s survey reveal a profession divided. Among partners and owners at PE-backed firms, 67% report satisfaction (40% very satisfied and 27% somewhat satisfied). But look at staff responses and it’s almost a perfect mirror image: 52% are either somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied.

The anonymous comments from survey respondents paint an even bleaker picture. “It is a dumpster fire,” said one director at a large firm. “Low morale, people leaving, bonuses cut, pay raises eliminated or lowered.”

Another director at a very large firm agreed. “It’s horrible and dysfunctional. Losing clients, staff leaving, and partners pay more attention to their bank account than taking care of staff. Most partners are counting the days until they can leave with their money in hand.”

Perhaps most concerning for the profession’s future, 64% of respondents believe private equity will have a negative impact on the integrity and independence of public accounting firms. Another 56% think clients will suffer negative consequences.

“The industry will take a hit and the clients will take a hit,” David noted. “That’s not going to bode well for everybody else.”

It’s worth noting that fewer than 400 of the 44,000 US CPA firms have taken private equity investment, so less than 1%. But these tend to be larger, high-performing practices, and the trend only started accelerating around 2022.

Tax Preparers Leave Money on the Table

While PE-backed firms wrestle with cultural upheaval, smaller practitioners face a different challenge: chronic underpricing. The National Association of Tax Professionals’ 2025 survey reveals CPAs charge an average of just $280 for a basic 1040. Enrolled agents charge even less at $228, while non-credentialed preparers average $185.

These numbers shocked David. “Since I stopped doing my own taxes and pay an accounting firm to do them, it’s $1,200 to $1,300 a return. I’ve never been quoted this low of a price.”

Still, the survey contained some encouraging news. When preparers raise fees, clients rarely leave. Melissa Bowman, an EA in Ohio, increased prices 12-20% across the board twice since 2020, and “not one client left because of pricing.”

“If not one client leaves after you implement a substantial price increase like that, you’re still underpriced,” Blake pointed out.

One particularly surprising finding is that 18% of preparers don’t charge extra for state returns. “TurboTax has trained 45 million taxpayers over the last 30 years that you have to pay extra to get your state return done,” David noted. “The fact that almost 20% don’t charge for doing the state return seems crazy to me.”

Billion-Dollar Audit Relationships Raise Independence Questions

The independence concerns raised by private equity pale next to the decades-long, billion-dollar relationships between the Big Four and their largest clients. Deloitte has audited Microsoft since 1986, collecting $78 million in 2025 alone.

“This is like a $2 billion relationship between Deloitte and Microsoft over the last 40 years,” David calculated. “With that much money involved, the motivations just can’t be aligned with the public.”

The situation gets more complex when you consider that these firms also sell consulting services. “Doesn’t Deloitte sell Microsoft consulting type services and they implement Microsoft Copilot AI type things, but they also audit Microsoft?” David asked.

Blake acknowledged the concern. “These firms are audit firms, but they’re also consulting firms. And consulting teams are some of the biggest resellers now of the technology their clients develop.”

Change may be coming whether firms want it or not. With Microsoft cutting 15,000 jobs in 2025, David predicts inevitable pressure on audit fees. “They’ll go back to their auditor and say, ‘we don’t want to pay this much for our audit. We want you to use AI,’” David predicts.

What’s Next for the Profession?

The AICPA is seeking comments on ethics rules updates for alternative practice structures—the arrangements that enable private equity investment. But there’s a catch. Despite announcing the comment period weeks ago, the actual exposure draft won’t be available until December 29.

“Today is the 23rd,” David pointed out. “If it’s not done today, when are they doing this? Christmas Eve, Christmas Day?”

David predicted the process could drag on. “This could take a decade,” he suggested.

The accounting profession is under pressure from private equity reshaping firm culture, chronic underpricing in tax prep, and billion-dollar audit relationships raising independence questions. For practitioners, there is a clear need to raise prices and watch the PE developments carefully.

For the complete discussion, including a story about a Scottish police officer’s heroic retrieval of evidence from a toilet and concerns about IRS readiness for tax season, listen to the full episode of The Accounting Podcast.