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Beyond EOS: A Better Path Forward for Accounting Firm Growth

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What if the very business system you’ve implemented to streamline operations is stifling your firm’s growth? While popular frameworks like EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) promise efficiency and scalability, many accounting firm owners discover that these generic solutions fail to address their unique challenges—from managing seasonal workflows to optimizing tax preparation processes.

In a recent episode of the “Who’s Really the BOSS?” podcast, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon sat down with industry consultant Christine Nietzke to dig into operating systems for accounting firms. Drawing from decades of experience working with accounting firms, Christine shared why traditional business systems often constrain rather than enhance firm performance, especially when implementing specialized workflows and managing industry-specific demands.

The Promise and Limitations of Generic Business Systems

The appeal of systems like EOS is clear: they provide a structured approach to running your business through quarterly meetings, defined priorities (called “rocks”), and regular check-ins to maintain momentum. As Christine explains, “It’s a great process. It helps business owners keep at the forefront the things they’re trying to achieve.” There’s even science behind the system’s 90-day check-ins, aligning with natural human motivation cycles.

However, implementing EOS comes with significant commitments and crucial limitations many firm owners don’t initially recognize. EOS requires a “purity” commitment from its implementers that prevents them from providing industry-specific guidance or operational advice outside the system’s framework.

Christine discovered this limitation while exploring becoming an EOS implementer herself. “I would have been prohibited from helping an accounting firm specifically with an operational issue or workflow,” she explains. “That was the deciding factor for me—a deal breaker.” This restriction reveals a fundamental challenge with generic business systems: they prioritize standardization over specialization, potentially leaving accounting firms without the specific guidance they need to address their unique operational challenges.

For accounting firm owners, this means choosing between maintaining system purity and accessing the specialized expertise needed to optimize their practice. Christine shared an example of how this choice can significantly impact firm efficiency and growth.

When Generic Systems Meet Real-world Challenges

Christine worked with a firm owner who inherited his practice from his father—a common scenario in the accounting industry. Along with client relationships came embedded inefficiencies in workflows and processes holding the firm back. Notably, every tax preparer handled each return from start to finish, creating unnecessary complexity and reducing productivity—a challenge that generic business systems can’t address.

“Working with him, I helped reimagine what his tax process looks like in his firm,” Christine explains. By understanding the nuances of tax preparation workflows, she implemented a tax administrative professional role to handle front-end and back-end processes—a change that would have been impossible under the constraints of a generic system focused solely on high-level business practices.

The results were immediate and measurable: fewer tax extensions, improved efficiency, and better workflow management. They didn’t achieve this transformation through general business principles or quarterly goal-setting but by applying specialized industry knowledge of the challenges and proven solutions specific to accounting firms.

As the profession continues to evolve and new challenges arise, firms will continue to need specialized solutions. Forward-thinking firms are discovering that the path to sustainable growth is approaches explicitly tailored to their unique needs.

The Power of Industry-Specific Solutions: GRIP in Action

Enter GRIP (Goal Ready Implementation Plan), a solution that exemplifies the move toward industry-specific approaches. Unlike generic systems that apply the same framework to every business, GRIP was designed specifically for accounting firms, with a built-in understanding of tax seasons, industry workflows, and practice management challenges.

“While EOS is a process and a system, GRIP is actually a blueprint,” Christine explains. “It’s going to get you exactly where you want to be. And you have consultants and advisors ready to help you when things aren’t progressing the way you wanted.” This distinction is crucial: rather than just providing a framework, GRIP offers a concrete roadmap tailored to accounting firm success.

The program’s effectiveness comes from its deep integration of industry knowledge. Implementation timelines account for tax seasons, preventing the chaos that can result from instituting significant changes during peak periods. Documentation and delegation strategies are designed specifically for accounting firm dynamics, and ongoing advisory support comes from professionals with direct industry experience.

Firms implementing GRIP bring their blueprint to every leadership team meeting, using it to guide decision-making and track progress. This practical application demonstrates how industry-specific solutions transform high-level goals into actionable improvements—proving that specialized knowledge matters when it comes to accounting firm success.

Embracing Tailored Solutions for Firm Growth

Accounting firms face unique challenges that generic business systems often fail to address. By adopting industry-specific solutions like GRIP, firms can implement strategies that account for the nuances of their operations, leading to sustainable growth and operational excellence.

Ready to transform your firm’s operations with specialized approaches? Listen to the discussion on the “Who’s Really the BOSS?” podcast, where Christine shares additional insights and real-world examples of accounting firms achieving breakthrough results.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Is Your Accounting Firm Missing Out on the Power of Community-Driven Growth?

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What if the future success of CPA firms depends not just on financial expertise but on building a supportive, purpose-driven community? Rachel and Marcus Dillon, owners of Dillon Business Advisors and co-hosts of the Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast, believe community is the key. With their innovative platform, newly rebranded as Collective by DBA, they’re transforming how accounting firms operate by fostering a community that empowers entire teams—not just the owners.

Addressing Gaps in Accounting Firm Support

Accounting firms today face numerous challenges—from managing remote teams to staying updated with ever-changing regulations. Rachel highlights the struggle:

“We were looking for a community that could serve our team. We wanted accountability and ongoing support solution for the real-life, day-in and day-out challenges our team members were facing—not just the owner but the entire team.”

Existing peer communities in the accounting profession fell short, often focusing solely on firm owners or offering fragmented support. Marcus adds:

“We wanted to support the whole team, from leadership to admin. We wanted to ensure everyone was supported in one place with similar teams.”

Recognizing a gap in comprehensive, team-wide support, Rachel and Marcus, along with Amy McCarty, created Collective by DBA. Their goal was to address the technical aspects of running an accounting firm and the human element—fostering collaboration, facilitating professional development, and cultivating a sense of community across all levels.

Creating a Holistic Support Ecosystem

Collective by DBA is more than a professional network; it’s a carefully crafted ecosystem designed to support accounting firms at every level. At its core, it is a community platform where members, called “Insiders,” can share resources, communicate, and collaborate on topics ranging from client management strategies to the latest tax regulations.

Rachel explains:

“When you join the Collective, you become an Insider. It’s for the firm—not just one person or the owner or a partner. It’s for the whole team.”

The platform offers:

  • Webinars on current topics: Providing insights into industry trends and challenges.
  • Live streams for real-time problem solving: Allowing members to tackle issues collaboratively as they arise.
  • In-person events: Facilitating deeper networking and learning opportunities.
  • Discussion boards: Providing a place for members to share and receive feedback on potential initiatives and current challenges.
  • Resources: Offering guides and templates related to accounting firm operations and management.

The community is structured around three main pillars:

  1. Strategy: Helping firms define their vision, target the right clients, and plan for growth.
  2. Structure: Guiding firms in organizing their teams, roles, and workflows for maximum efficiency.
  3. Systems: Assisting in selecting and implementing tools and processes to streamline operations.

A standout feature of Collective by DBA is its vendor-free environment. Marcus emphasizes:

“There are no vendors in this group. Behind the paywall are other firm owners. There’s nobody with a vested interest in a software company trying to sell you something.”

This approach fosters open, honest discussions about software, best practices, and industry challenges without the pressure of sales pitches. Members can freely share their experiences with different tools or strategies, ensuring the focus remains on practical, peer-tested solutions.

Embedding Core Values into Operations

At the heart of Collective by DBA is a clear vision and core values guiding every operation. Rachel articulates this vision:

“We are creating a future where success is measured by the positive impact we make on individuals, businesses, and our communities by connecting and inspiring professionals focused on continual learning and leaving a legacy.”

Their core values, encapsulated in the acronym IMPACT, are:

  • Integrity. “When we say yes or no to the size of an event or the location of an event, we’re doing back to those values,” Rachel notes. “Does it align? If it doesn’t, then it’s an easy no.”
  • Meaningful work. “We want our Insiders to continually get better. So we want to see a change—a noticeable difference, a positive impact,” Rachel says.
  • People first. This value is evident in their commitment to supporting entire accounting teams, not just firm owners.
  • Appreciation. “This has always been on our heart and, really, a calling to serve others, to serve our peers in the industry,” Rachel explains.
  • Collaboration. Central to their community platform, encouraging knowledge sharing among peers.
  • Transparency. This influences their approach to events and vendor relationships. Marcus notes, “We’ve turned down some people for various reasons. These are hand-selected people that DBA uses, and they’re not there to sell.”

Looking ahead, Collective by DBA plans to expand its offerings. Marcus outlines:

“We will build out different types of accountability at different levels, all the way through to one-on-one support. At the end of the day, you’re either going to spend money or spend time.”

This tiered approach ensures firms of all sizes can find the right level of support to meet their needs and drive growth.

Conclusion

By addressing the need for comprehensive, team-wide support, creating a vendor-free community focused on practical solutions, and embedding core values into every aspect of their operations, the Collective by DBA community meets the holistic needs of high-achieving accounting firms.

Imagine an accounting profession where firms collaborate, share best practices freely, and support and value every team member. Collective by DBA is working to realize this vision.

This community offers an exciting opportunity for CPA firm owners and accounting professionals to transform how they operate, collaborate, and grow. Whether you’re grappling with team management, seeking innovative ways to serve clients, or looking for a supportive community of like-minded professionals, Collective by DBA provides a new path forward.

Ready to transform your accounting firm? Listen to the full Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast episode to learn more about how Collective by DBA can benefit your practice.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Are Your Remote Accountants Thriving? Learn from This Firm’s Game-Changing Approach

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Marcus and Rachel Dillon, hosts of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, have transformed their virtual accounting firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with innovative strategies for motivating remote teams. Their approach reimagines compensation, leadership opportunities, and team engagement in a virtual team. 

In a recent episode, they offered valuable insights for CPA firm owners and accounting professionals looking to thrive in a remote environment.

Incentivizing the Right Behaviors

The Dillons recently overhauled their bonus structure to align more closely with client expectations and give team members more control over their compensation. Previously, bonuses were tied to bringing in new Client Accounting Services (CAS) clients. While this structure helped the firm grow its CAS engagements, the system had limitations. As Marcus explains, “There was some disconnect. People could not calculate what their bonus was going to be at any one point, and they didn’t have control over the sales process.”

The new structure offers each team member a $25 bonus for every client whose financials are delivered by the 15th of the following month. With teams of three serving each client, that’s a potential $75 bonus per client per month. This system directly rewards the timely delivery of financial data, a fundamental client expectation.

The impact was almost immediate. In a client meeting, a Client Service Manager proactively addressed the new system: “We’re going to change up what we issue to you because we’ve got this new incentive plan at DBA, and I get a little bonus if we issue the core financials by the 15th. But some of the budget reports might go out after the 15th, but as close to the 15th as possible.”

To help increase buy-in and address potential concerns, the Dillons used an “optimist/pessimist” activity during the rollout. Team members were paired up and asked to share positive and negative aspects of the new structure. This approach encouraged open dialogue and allowed the Dillons to address concerns directly and immediately.

Fostering Leadership and Expertise in a Virtual Environment

Recognizing the need for clear career advancement paths and leadership opportunities in a remote setting, Dillon Business Advisors introduced two innovative programs: Subject Matter Expert roles and an Onboarding bonus system.

The Dillons designated subject matter experts in three primary areas: accounting, tax, and payroll. These roles come with an additional stipend of about $900 per year. As Marcus explains, “That’s the person. If you’ve got a tax question or an accounting question or a payroll question, that’s who you go to. I’m not saying they know all the answers, but they’re going to help find them. And they’re also going to help educate the team throughout the year.”

The Onboarding bonus system incentivizes efficient client onboarding. Teams can earn up to 50% of the onboarding fee as a bonus, with the percentage decreasing on a sliding scale based on how quickly the onboarding is completed. This encourages team members to streamline the process and quickly get new clients up and running.

The impact of these changes was immediate. In a test run before the full rollout, team members began proactively analyzing new client data and preparing recommendations before the kickoff call. Marcus notes, “What came out of the conversation was, ‘Well, I’m going to go ahead and go into their QBO file and really look at it, really analyze it first. And then I’m also going to proforma their tax returns and look at those ahead of the client kickoff call.’ Then we can make recommendations at the kickoff call versus saying we’re going to look them over in the next few days.”

Investing in Team Engagement: The Power of Strategic Retreats

While innovative compensation structures and career development opportunities lay the foundation for a high-performing remote team, the Dillons recognized the importance of face-to-face interaction. Their solution? Strategic team retreats that complement and reinforce their other motivational strategies.

Dillon Business Advisors’ recent retreat in Florida included a team meeting to roll out new bonus structures and leadership opportunities, followed by group activities like a boat trip to Crab Island. The investment is significant—the recent domestic trip cost about $6,000 per couple or $3,000 per person. However, the Dillons view this as crucial for team performance and retention.

The benefits of these retreats align perfectly to create high-performing remote teams:

  1. They strengthen team bonds and company culture, which is crucial for collaborative remote work
  2. They provide face-to-face time for meaningful discussions and feedback on new initiatives
  3. They increase employee satisfaction and retention, supporting the firm’s investment in talent
  4. They offer a tangible reward for meeting company goals, reinforcing the performance-based culture

At the final dinner, Marcus highlighted each team member’s contributions in front of their colleagues and spouses, reinforcing the appreciation culture. He also provided handwritten cards to each team member, a personal touch that made a significant impact.

Transforming Remote CPA Teams into High-Performing Units

By tying bonuses to client-centric metrics, creating new opportunities for innovation and leadership, and investing in team engagement through retreats, the Dillons have transformed their remote team into a high-performing, self-motivated unit. As Marcus aptly puts it, “If you’re kind of scratching your head on how to make your employees do what you want them to do, throw some dollars where it matters most.”

These strategies drive individual performance by fostering a collaborative culture that consistently exceeds client expectations and contributes to firm growth. With remote work becoming the norm rather than the exception, such approaches are crucial for CPA firms looking to thrive.

As more firms transition to remote or hybrid models, those that can effectively motivate and engage their virtual teams will have a distinct competitive advantage. The Dillons’ experience demonstrates that remote teams can be just as effective—if not more so—with the right incentives and opportunities than traditional office-based teams. Listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast for all the details.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA , supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

From Cash Flow Concerns to Acquisition Strategies: Real-World Financial Advisory in Action

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“How do you deliver $2,000 to $8,000 per month in value to your advisory clients?” Many CPA firm owners looking to get into high-level advisory services are looking for an answer to this question. Marcus and Rachel Dillon, hosts of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, answered this question in a recent episode. In short, they take a carefully tailored approach that combines industry knowledge, relationship management, and adaptive communication.

The Art of Tailoring Client Advisory Services

Effective client advisory requires a structured yet flexible approach to client meetings. Marcus, who provides outsourced CFO services for several clients, outlines a framework that allows customization while covering crucial bases: connection time, priority investigation, financial analysis, strategy discussion, and action planning.

“Those five points give a structure to the meeting. Otherwise, the clients might direct the meeting the whole time and let you sprinkle in some words of wisdom,” Rachel explains, highlighting the importance of having a structure, especially with new clients.

The key to successful advisory meetings lies in thorough preparation. Marcus describes his process: “I have a Chrome browser pulled up just for the client. I’ve got three tabs open from the client’s QuickBooks Online file, so I’ve got their balance sheet through today, their P&L, and their AR aging because that’s usually a talking point.”

However, flexibility is equally crucial. As client relationships mature, the approach can become more fluid. Marcus might focus more on immediate concerns or recent financial changes for established clients while still touching on all key areas.

Case Study: Navigating Growth in a Marketing Agency

To demonstrate the power of tailored advisory services, Marcus and Rachel shared a case study of a marketing agency client with an annual revenue of $3-3.5 million. This client was considering acquiring a vendor to bring research capabilities in-house.

Marcus tailors his preparation for this client: “They use Google Sheets, while we use Excel.. So we’ve had to find that balance. He’ll keep his internal stuff and invite us into his Google Sheets for the projections.” It is important to consider disruption to firm workflows when determining if or when to go outside your standard tech stack based on an individual client’s needs.

The advisory meetings focus heavily on cash flow management and acquisition planning. Marcus notes, “We’ve seen pull back in that industry over the last year and a half to two years in response to the overall economy.” To address this, Marcus uses a combination of tools, including QuickBooks Online for historical data and a specialized cash flow tool for 90-day projections.

A key challenge is balancing the focus between core business operations and the potential acquisition. It’s easy for the owner to focus so intently on the acquisition that he neglects sales. But Marcus addresses this by emphasizing the importance of maintaining sales efforts and closely monitoring accounts receivable, even as the client explores growth opportunities.

Case Study: Managing Cash Flow in a Dental Practice

The Dillons’ second case study focuses on a dental practice with an annual revenue of $2.4-2.5 million. This client was experiencing cash flow concerns, presenting a different set of challenges than the marketing agency’s.

Marcus approaches this client’s situation with a deep understanding of the dental industry. He explains, “I looked at distributions and at the P&L. I know collections in his industry are a little bit soft since people aren’t doing some of the elective procedures. But production was about the same and collections were only down about $5,000 compared to last year.”

The advisory approach involves a careful balance of personal and business financial considerations. Marcus knew this client took significant distributions from the company to pay for a home remodel. Marcus notes, “Having that data, I was able to say, ‘Okay,  you’ve pulled out $200,000, in distributions. Did all that go to that remodel project?’ Yeah. Pretty much.” By highlighting how personal financial decisions impact business cash flow, Marcus helps clients understand their financial situation.

Strategic advice for this client includes considering price increases, focusing on AR collections, and considering a membership program as an alternative to accepting traditional dental insurance, where reimbursements continue to go down for doctors and the cost to the insurer continues to increase.

Building Relationships Over Time

Marcus emphasizes the importance of building relationships with clients over time: “It takes about a year, probably a year and a half, to really get comfortable with a client, meeting on a quarterly basis. So I would say 4 to 6 meetings in, you get to know the other person on the other side of the screen and can anticipate their points of concerns.”

As relationships deepen, advisors can anticipate client needs, provide more nuanced advice, and adapt their communication style to best suit each client. For example, Marcus notes that with long-standing clients, he can often predict their concerns before a meeting, allowing for more targeted and efficient discussions.

Key Takeaways for Financial Advisors

So, what can accountants do to replicate Dillon Business Advisors’ success in having advisory-focused client conversations?

  1. Invest in industry-specific knowledge to provide contextual, relevant advice
  2. Build solid and lasting relationships with clients that go beyond numbers
  3. Develop a flexible advisory framework that can be tailored to each client’s needs
  4. Continuously adapt your approach as client relationships evolve

Listen to the full “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast episode featuring Marcus and Rachel Dillon for more practical tips for elevating your advisory services. You’ll hear firsthand accounts of client interactions, learn about specific tools and techniques for enhancing your advisory approach, and gain valuable perspectives on building a successful advisory practice. Whether you’re just starting to offer advisory services or looking to take your existing practice to the next level, this episode offers actionable insights you won’t want to miss.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, is a community for accounting firms to get operational support in strategy, structure, and systems.

Collective by DBA: Revolutionizing Operational Support for CPA Firms

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In episode 14 of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon reveal Collective by DBA (previously DBA Firm), a revolutionary initiative born from their experience as successful CPA firm owners. The Dillons have navigated the choppy waters of firm management and emerged with a blueprint for success that they’re now sharing with the accounting community.

Collective by DBA isn’t your typical consulting service. It’s a comprehensive support system designed specifically for CPA firm owners looking to overcome common hurdles and achieve sustainable growth. Their approach is simple yet powerful: By providing tailored resources, personalized implementation plans, and a supportive community, Collective by DBA empowers accounting firm leaders to transform their practices and reach new heights of success.

Operational support is at the heart of Collective by DBA’s approach—an often overlooked but crucial aspect of running a successful CPA firm. As Marcus emphasizes, “[Collective by DBA] is operational support for CPA firms. And I just I come back to operations—that’s the keyword.” This focus on operations sets Collective by DBA apart. While many consultants focus on technical accounting skills or marketing strategies, Collective by DBA recognizes that how a firm operates day-to-day is often the difference between struggling and thriving.

Collective by DBA targets firms with revenues between $500,000 and $5 million and 3 to 30 employees. As Marcus explains, “That’s really the core. That’s who we feel called to serve because that’s who we can make the greatest impact on.”

The Three Pillars of DBA Firm’s Support Model

Collective by DBA’s approach is built on three fundamental pillars: structure, strategy, and systems. 

  • Structure forms the foundation, with concepts like their “Team of Three” model providing a framework for organizing staff roles efficiently.
  • Strategy focuses on making smart decisions about the firm’s direction, such as transitioning from relying on seasonal tax work to more stable, recurring revenue streams.
  • Systems emphasizes leveraging technology and processes to streamline operations and improve efficiency.

Key Offerings

Collective by DBA offers a range of resources and services to support CPA firms:

  • Firm resources. Firms that join the Collective Community can download guides, templates, and case studies.
  • Webinars. Regular online sessions are eligible for CPE that cover topics ranging from team management to technology implementation.
  • GRIP (Goal Ready Implementation Plan). This intensive service involves a deep dive into a firm’s current state, goals, and challenges, resulting in a tailored 24-month plan for growth and transformation.
  • Advisors. Collective by DBA team members work closely with firms to implement changes, ensuring lasting positive impact through one-on-one advisory and group facilitation.
  • Community events. Collective by DBA hosts gatherings like their recent Get Together in The Woodlands, Texas, creating opportunities for accounting professionals to learn from each other and share experiences in person.

The Get Together Event

In April 2024, Collective by DBA hosted its first major in-person event, bringing together about 60 firm leaders nationwide. The two-day gathering included presentations from the Dillon Business Advisors and Collective by DBA, peer-led discussions, and the introduction of their GRIP service. Marcus notes, “Unlike many other conferences and events members might go to,  the other attendees are actually leaders in firms. We’re not stacking events with influencers, sponsors, and vendors.”

The Future of Collective by DBA

As Collective by DBA continues to grow, it’s expanding its offerings while staying true to its mission of providing operational support to CPA firms. Recent developments include gaining approval to issue CPE credits and plans to make its GRIP service more widely available.

Rachel summarizes their approach: “We are definitely not a technology company. What we are is very invested in building relationships and positively impacting and transforming the accounting industry. Building relationships and sharing what we’ve learned has been really rewarding and something that gets me really excited.”

For CPA firm owners looking to transform their practice, Collective by DBA is helping to create more efficient, profitable, and sustainable accounting practices by addressing the often-overlooked operational aspects of running a firm. To learn more about their resources and services, visit Collective by DBA and listen to the full episode of the “Who’s Really the Boss” podcast.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.