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Why Your Team Resists Change and the Simple Framework That Fixes It

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A client builds an AI-powered dashboard, gets his CPA to validate it, then turns around and asks, “So what value do you bring that I can’t get from this thing?” The CPA doesn’t have a great answer. Services get scaled back.

Meanwhile, an oral surgery practice with four doctors and $8 million in annual revenue is still running QuickBooks Desktop, booking revenue through monthly adjusting journal entries, and entering its entire American Express bill as a single payment each month. They haven’t updated a single process since they founded the business decades ago. Both of these clients exist right now, and they could both be sitting in your pipeline this week.

That’s the change landscape accounting firm leaders navigate today. And if you think the biggest threat is AI or the private equity money flooding into the profession, Marcus and Rachel Dillon say you’re looking at the wrong problem.

In this episode of Who’s Really the BOSS?, the Dillons, owners of Dillon Business Advisors, make the case that the real risk isn’t the change itself. It’s how you lead your people through it. Drawing on real client stories, their own leadership missteps, and a framework borrowed from Patrick Lencioni, they lay out a practical approach to change management any firm leader can start using immediately.

 

The Change Landscape: From Silicon Valley to Main Street

Before you can bring your team through change, you need to understand what you’re actually up against. The answer depends on where you’re standing.

Marcus spends time networking with partners at top-20 and top-100 firms with $60 million or more in revenue. What he hears from those conversations tends toward doomsday. These firms serve private equity-backed businesses whose principals all have finance or business backgrounds. Those clients are leaning hard into AI, meaning the professionals serving them have to keep pace or move faster.

One leader at a larger firm told Marcus he no longer opens conversations with “How are the kids?” Instead, the first question he asks clients, prospects, and peers is, “How are you using AI today?”

“If your clients are changing faster than you are,” Marcus explains, “you’re going to be the weakest link in that relationship, and they’re going to move on faster than you can.”

The Big Four are already placing their bets. PwC is doubling down on technology and AI at the entry level, slashing recruiting and campus visits. If that layer of the workforce shrinks, they don’t need to wine and dine as many college students. EY is taking a different approach, doubling its CPA exam pass bonus to $10,000 and investing in the human side.

But while Silicon Valley types are sounding the alarm, Main Street tells a different story.

Remember that oral surgery practice? The lead doctor told Marcus they set up the business nearly 30 years ago and never updated their processes because the same team has been in place the whole time.

DBA’s plan for this client is to set up QuickBooks Online, enable bank feeds, connect them to a service like Ramp, and automate the revenue journal entry. Low-hanging fruit by any modern standard.

“You have to choose how analog you want to exist in this digital world,” Marcus says. The clients who want a human touch continue to pay a premium for it. A purely digital product, he argues, is a race to the bottom.

When Change Communication Goes Wrong

Marcus doesn’t sugarcoat DBA’s early track record on change communication. When the firm merged in another practice nearly a decade ago, Marcus was so excited about the acquisition that he gathered everyone in the conference room and essentially announced it cold. Most team members were hearing about it for the first time.

“That probably didn’t go over as well as I could have hoped,” he admits.

The fallout from moments like this is bad. People disengage. The service atmosphere turns mediocre. Tension builds. Marcus found himself labeled “addicted to change,” which bred resistance rather than readiness.

“If you don’t work on your culture, you still have a culture,” he says. “It’s just unintentional. The same can be said of change.”

Rachel offers the perspective from the other side. When she talks to team members about why they push back on change, the answer is almost always a lack of clarity. They don’t understand why it’s important. They can’t see how it impacts them personally.

“A lot of times it feels like, ‘This is going to take me longer and I’m going to have to work more. And I don’t have any more hours or capacity left to give,'” Rachel explains.

The Dillons evolved toward a three-question framework:

  1. What is changing?
  2. What is staying the same?
  3. How does this impact me?

It was an improvement, but still incomplete. It only addressed the team’s perspective, not clients or other stakeholders.

A peer group introduced Marcus to Patrick Lencioni’s Four Ps framework. The Dillons adopted it as their change-management filter and introduced it to the team at their recent Gather event alongside their rally cry for 2026: “Lead change, create impact.”

The Four Ps: Your Repeatable Framework for Leading Change

The framework gives firm leaders four sequential steps to follow every time they introduce change, whether it’s a new tech stack, a team restructuring, or a client exit strategy.

Purpose: What are we changing?

You need to anchor every change in something bigger than “we found a cool new tool.” At DBA, that anchor is their mission, vision, and values. Their core values spell out the word IMPACT, and Rachel describes how they literally map each proposed change back to specific letters in that acronym.

The trap most leaders fall into here is vagueness. Marcus admits he’s guilty of softening language because he wants to be liked and avoiding directness to dodge conflict.

“Just tell me what you expect. Just tell me what you need me to do,” Rachel says. “People don’t want 20 options. They want one or two.”

Marcus borrows from Andy Stanley: “To be clear is to be kind. To be unclear is to be unkind.”

“If you can’t clearly say what’s changing, the team will default to their comfort level,” Marcus warns. “Which means they’ll do as little as possible.”

Picture: What does success look like?

Leaders often skip this step. They explain what’s changing and how it will happen, but they never describe what winning looks like on the other side.

Marcus uses a family vacation analogy. You decide to take a trip (that’s the purpose). Now tell the kids you’re going to Disneyland and describe the destination so everyone can see it.

In a firm context, that might mean showing the team what life looks like after implementing a team-of-three service model: predictable capacity, no more overtime scrambles, better client satisfaction scores.

The Dillons deploy an exercise called Optimist/Pessimist. Pair people up. One person must articulate at least one or two positives about the proposed change. The other must find negatives. This gives explicit permission to voice concerns that would otherwise get whispered in private channels.

“Once we are sick of saying the same thing over and over again, they’ve actually received it, processed it, and can carry it out,” Rachel says. 

Plan: How do we get there?

The plan phase breaks the picture into executable steps. Extending the road trip metaphor, explain whether you’re flying or driving. If driving, are you taking the scenic route? Where do you pull over to celebrate progress?

Rachel emphasizes two non-negotiables for every step: a responsible person and a deadline. Each milestone needs an owner and a date, so there’s no ambiguity about who’s doing what by when.

This is also where you appoint change agents from within your team. Team members who showed energy during the Picture phase are natural candidates to lead portions of the execution.

“A simple plan executed beats a perfect plan that’s been delayed,” Marcus notes.

Part: What’s my role in this?

Every single person needs to understand their role, including those whose role is “nothing changes for you.”

Marcus shares a recent example from DBA’s acquisition work. For some team members, the message was, “Keep serving your current clients well. You’re not getting new clients from this acquisition. You’re not learning a new process or technology.”

Simply telling people “your job stays the same” is just as critical as the detailed instructions given to people at the center of the transition.

When you don’t tell people their part, they default to their worst experience. Maybe a previous boss promised “nothing will change” and then changed everything. You can’t control the baggage people carry, but you can replace old narratives with present-tense clarity.

This step requires a conversation, not an email. People need two-way dialogue where they can ask questions and process in real time.

Leading Through the Messy Middle

Marcus closes with an honest confession. “I’m as guilty as anybody. I want to initiate the change. And I want all the fruit from the success of that change. I don’t want to live through the change. I want to just speed through it or delegate it.”

Successful firms have leaders who bring their people through change intentionally, with clarity, conviction, and care.

The Four Ps give you a repeatable filter for any transition:

  • Purpose: Anchor the change in your mission and values and say it plainly
  • Picture: Show people what success looks like, then repeat until you’re sick of it
  • Plan: Break the vision into steps with owners and deadlines
  • Part: Tell everyone their role in a live conversation, not an email

Whether you’re navigating a firm acquisition, a technology overhaul, or wondering how fast AI is coming for your services, the same four questions apply. As the Dillons put it, the goal for 2026 is to lead change and create impact.

Listen to the full episode to hear Marcus’s take on how fast AI is really moving, Rachel’s breakdown of the Optimist/Pessimist exercise in action, and why moving homes during busy season might actually make perfect sense for a couple “addicted to change.”

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

The $450,000 Worth of Clients DBA Walked Away From on Purpose

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In 2010, Marcus Dillon sat down to hand-write more than 50 letters to retiring CPAs, asking if they’d be willing to sell their practices. One of those letters launched Dillon Business Advisors, a firm that grew from a $400,000 acquisition into a multi-million-dollar advisory practice by strategically reinventing itself every five years.

On a recent episode of the Who’s Really the Boss? podcast, Marcus and Rachel Dillon celebrated the firm’s 15th anniversary by sharing its origin story and the evolution of DBA. In the first of a two-part series, they walked through specific revenue numbers, margin targets, acquisition details, and the personal sacrifices behind each phase of growth.

The Foundation: High School Sweethearts to Business Partners

Marcus and Rachel’s story started long before DBA. They met in driver’s ed at 15 and 16 and have been together ever since. By their first wedding anniversary, they had a one-and-a-half-month-old daughter, Kinley. That young family shaped every business decision that followed.

Marcus came out of Ernst & Young’s audit practice, where travel demands didn’t work for family life. He landed at a smaller Houston-area firm with around 15 employees and under $2 million in revenue. The owner took a chance on a 23-year-old kid to build an audit practice from scratch.

“I was able to get paid 45% of my effective billings, including write-ups,” Marcus said. “So I learned really early on how to price things so it was acceptable to clients.”

At his peak, he was billing close to $400,000 a year and taking home up to $180,000. But Rachel noticed a problem. Marcus had to match the owner’s hours, and he would stay at the office until 11 p.m., midnight, or sometimes 1 a.m.

“I didn’t want to be a single mom,” Rachel explained. “I was a teacher getting off at 4 p.m. and wondering, where is my husband and the father of my kids?”

DBA 1.0: Building Through Acquisition (2011-2016)

The Dillons prepared carefully for acquiring a firm. They paid off every debt except their mortgage. Rachel kept teaching for a steady income and benefits. Then Marcus wrote those letters.

One landed with Bob, a CPA in his 70s or 80s, who recently had a health scare. First Command Bank financed about $320,000 of the $400,000 purchase price. There was a 10% seller note, and Marcus brought 10% cash to closing.

Unexpectedly, clients followed Marcus, despite his non-compete agreement with his old firm. He fully honored the agreement, paying a third of the collections back to his former employer for three years. But the client migration pushed DBA from $400,000 to about $700,000 almost immediately.

The first office wasn’t glamorous. Marcus inherited a lease in what he calls a Class D building right off a major Houston interstate. “It had the old school atrium, and it just smelled like crap whenever they brought new mulch and plants into that atrium,” he recalled. He worked alone until 9 or 10 p.m., and his was often the only car in the parking lot.

Rachel’s first day at DBA in 2013 was moving day. “I remember doing a couple of collection calls on the floor as we were packing up,” she said. “I was not coming to work with you at the other place regularly.”

By then, they’d built their own 2,500-square-foot standalone office, figuring, if they were paying rent, they might as well pay it to themselves.

From the start, the Dillons prioritized same-day invoicing. Returns would flow to Rachel for client delivery, then straight to Marcus for billing that same day. “That’s something that was always a priority to get done immediately,” Rachel noted. “I hear some people spend days doing billing and invoicing, sometimes months after the fact.”

That diligence paid off. By 2016, DBA reached $1.5 million in revenue. The Dillons had paid off the acquisition loan and bought a lake house. They were successful, but as Marcus observed, “Every time someone wished me success, it was because I had just gone into debt.”

DBA 2.0: The Merger That Taught Them to Let Go (2016-2020)

In 2016, Marcus had breakfast with his mentor, Tom, who was winding down his practice. Marcus asked a question he now admits was the wrong way to evaluate an acquisition: “How would we be worse off by coming together?”

Tom brought about $400,000 of work, pushing DBA past $2 million. On paper, it looked perfect. In practice, it was a disaster.

“Tom’s clients loved Tom,” Rachel said bluntly. “Tom’s clients hated us.”

These weren’t just any clients. They were survivors of three or four rounds of exits, and they stayed for Tom personally. Plus, Tom’s service model was completely different. He offered every client two in-person meetings during tax season. DBA didn’t operate that way.

Meanwhile, the Dillons built a 12,000-square-foot office building: 7,000 for DBA, 5,000 to lease out. Marcus describes it as having “an attorney feel with wood wainscoting and leather-bound books.” It was supposed to be their forever office.

But the cultural problems didn’t solve themselves. So DBA started strategically shedding clients.

They spun off about $100,000 to their friend Julie, who mentioned she wasn’t as busy as she’d like. “She made that mistake of telling us that,” Marcus joked. Another $100,000 went to a CPA closer to Tom’s office. The next year, they went bigger, spinning off $250,000 along with Tom’s office location.

In total, DBA shed about $450,000 in client work. Yet they never dipped below $2 million in revenue. “That was definitely a consideration,” Rachel explained. “We never wanted to dip below $2 million.”

By 2019, things had stabilized. The team was mostly part-time working parents who arrived at 9:30 and left by 2:30 to match school schedules. All work happened in the office.

Then came January 2020. At their annual team retreat, Marcus asked, “If you could do anything in this life and not fail, what would you do?”

The leader of their audit practice answered, “I would be a stay-at-home mom.”

“When you have a leader in the firm respond that way,” Marcus reflected, “it’s like, okay, this is likely not going to be the person to help lead that aspect of the business.”

By March, the COVID-19 pandemic sent the team home, and they never came back. DBA funded home office setups and kept the physical office available. Nobody used it.

The audit practice spun off during 2020. Tom pursued receivership work full-time. And DBA hit $1 million to the bottom line for the first time, maintaining 40-45% margins before officer compensation. That’s a target Marcus has carried since his days at his old firm.

But remote work didn’t mean balance. “We did the kids’ routine of dinner, activities, bath, and bedtime,” Rachel said. “And then we just went straight back to work again for the next three or four hours.”

The Hard-Earned Wisdom of 15 Years

Looking back, Marcus is clear about what drove their early success. “We were successful because we put the hours in. We weren’t necessarily working smarter. We just worked more than others around us and said yes to others around us, which doesn’t work anymore.”

Other firm owners likely recognize patterns in the Dillons’ journey:

  • Financial preparation matters. They eliminated personal debt and kept Rachel’s steady income before taking the acquisition risk.
  • Invoice immediately. Same-day billing became a cornerstone cash flow practice. You have to send out the invoice to get paid.
  • Not all acquisitions are equal. When clients survive multiple rounds of exits, they’re bonded to a person rather than a firm. Tom’s clients proved that.
  • Set a revenue floor and defend it. DBA shed $450,000 in work but never went below $2 million because organic growth and price increases filled the gaps.
  • Listen when people tell you who they are. One honest answer at a team retreat revealed the future of an entire service line.
  • Hours aren’t everything. The model that built a $1 million firm through sheer effort won’t build the next phase.

Growth isn’t just about what you build. It’s about what you’re willing to walk away from, whether that’s clients who don’t fit, service lines that aren’t growing, office space you no longer need, or the version of your firm that got you here but can’t take you further.

This is just the first half of DBA’s 15-year story. In part two, Marcus and Rachel will share how the firm evolved after the pandemic, what they’re seeing in today’s market, and where they believe the profession is headed. For now, listen to their full conversation in Part 1, including all the specific numbers, deal structures, and decision points.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

She Tried to Sell Her Firm Three Times Before Moving It to a Beach in Mexico

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Sandra Koch tried to sell her accounting firm three times over ten years. She was burned out and ready to quit. Today, she runs that same firm from a beach town in Mexico with dirt roads and one stop sign. And she’s never been happier.

In this episode of Who’s Really the Boss?, hosts Rachel and Marcus Dillon talk with Sandra, founder of Aurora Consulting Group. She shares her journey from owning a building in California to running her firm remotely from Baja California Sur. The conversation gets real about the anxiety of closing an office, the grief of letting go, and the unexpected freedom that followed.

The Dream Building That Had to Go

Sandra did everything by the book. She founded Aurora Consulting Group in San Diego in 2011 with one assistant. Three years later, she was juggling two offices—one in San Diego and one in Visalia, deep in California’s farmland. For 16 months, she went back and forth between the two locations. Eventually, she closed the San Diego office. “That wasn’t really working too well,” she admits.

Then came the building in Visalia. Sandra searched for a year before finding it. She bought it, remodeled it, and made it exactly what she wanted. “It was ego feeding, and it was a status symbol,” Sandra says on the podcast. She’s not embarrassed. It felt like success.

Marcus gets it. He grew up believing the ultimate achievement was having your name on a brick building where clients came to you. “That meant you made it,” he says. The day before recording this episode, Marcus and Rachel had just sold their own “forever building.”

By August 2023, reality hit Sandra hard. Clients weren’t coming to the office anymore. Some staff had moved away and were already remote. She was paying for an empty building.

“I wouldn’t wish the anxiety that I experienced during that time on anybody,” Sandra recalls. “But I knew it was the right thing to do.”

When Aurora Consulting Group went fully remote, Sandra was surprised by the grief she felt. “I had this dream, and then the dream kind of fell apart,” she explains. “Letting go of the dream felt like, wait, what do I do now?”

Marcus admits he also tends to remember only the good parts about having an office. You forget the commute, hiding from walk-in clients when you don’t have time, and dealing with frozen pipes. “I only remember the good days,” he says.

Sandra went through the same mental battle. “I’ll get sad about it. But then I’m like, Sandra, do the math. The math says it doesn’t make sense.”

A year after going remote, Sandra realized she could live anywhere. She wasn’t tied to Visalia or even California anymore. In 2024, she moved to Baja California Sur, Mexico, a coastal town with 1,800 people, dirt roads, and 25 varieties of whales passing by.

“The freedom I have from letting go of a physical location has been profound,” Sandra says. Every morning, she watches the sun rise over what Jacques Cousteau called “the world’s aquarium.”

She keeps a small office in Visalia for when she visits and has a part-time assistant who handles the occasional bank deposit. She learned some lessons the hard way, like discovering U.S. banks require a physical presence in the country to maintain accounts.

But that building with her name on it is gone, and she’s more proud of her firm now than ever.

Staying Close From 1,500 Miles Away

Going remote created new challenges. How do you stay connected to clients you genuinely care about? How do you keep a scattered team feeling like a team?

Sandra’s approach to clients is simple. She flies back three or four times a year and takes them to meals, one-on-one. No group events or presentations. Just food and conversation.

“I care about them and miss them. I want to see them just like I would want to see my family,” she explains. The one-on-one format is intentional. “That’s where the magic is. They tell me what’s really going on with them.”

Her clients’ warm response surprised her. They’re genuinely excited to see their CPA up in person.

Marcus shares a similar story. When a client who had sold his business invited Marcus to visit his farm, Marcus took him up on the offer and saw the excitement in the client’s eyes. They spent the day at the farm. No tax talk, just relationship building.

Building Team Culture Without an Office

Sandra’s team of six is spread across California and beyond. Her first remote hire four years ago turned out to be the right fit and set the standard for what worked.

Three things make remote work function, according to Sandra: training, culture, and communication. “You have to be religious about it,” she says.

The centerpiece is their Tuesday morning meeting at 10 a.m.. The key to this meeting is it’s not about work. The team shares what they need help with, their wins, and their struggles. Then they discuss their monthly book, with a $100 bonus for anyone who finishes it. They wrap up with “happies and crappies” (highs and lows).

Rachel points out that putting even modest money behind expectations shows the team you value the activity. “Start lower than you think,” she advises. “You can always increase an incentive, but it’s nearly impossible to reduce one.”

Sandra also discovered her team loves company swag. Nice jackets at Christmas had everyone excited. “It makes me realize they’re proud of the team they’re on,” she says.

In-person moments matter too. Sandra took the team to Intuit Connect in Las Vegas, where some team members met face-to-face for the first time. “They still talk about it,” she says. These investments show “I’m putting my money where my mouth is.”

As a result, Sandra believes she’s actually better at her job now.

“My clients get a better version of me,” she explains. “They get a less stressed-out version of me. I’m more present for them now because I’m not dealing with all the things attached to a physical location.”

The Science Experiment That Changed Everything

Sandra managed a lot of change in a short time period by changing how she thinks about trying new things.

“I used to think trying new things meant it would either succeed or fail,” she says. “When I changed to thinking ‘I’m doing a science experiment to see what happens,’ it really helped me.”

A science experiment doesn’t fail. It gives you data. You try something, see what happens, and decide whether to continue or pivot.

“I don’t have to commit to anything,” Sandra explains. “Not to software, not to a staff member, not to a client. When I go in thinking ‘I don’t have to commit, but I’m willing to try because I’m curious,’ it takes all the pressure off.”

This requires humility. You have to be honest about what’s working. Sandra’s team serves as a reality check, and her husband keeps her grounded when her curiosity pulls her in too many directions.

The results speak for themselves. “Our internal workflows went from practical nonexistence to a well-oiled machine very quickly,” Sandra says. “When something wasn’t working, we dropped it and went on to the next thing.”

Her 2026 goals show how far this mindset has taken her. Aurora has just three goals this year, down from 29 last year and 52 the year before. The three words: align, refine, and define. No big initiatives. Just steady improvement of what’s already working.

Finding Her People Made the Difference

Sandra credits one encounter with saving her firm. In November 2022, she heard Marcus speak at Intuit Connect. She got on the mailing list for Collective by DBA and signed up for their first in-person event.

“I heard a message of hope,” she remembers. “Aurora would not exist today if I hadn’t met you.”

Before that, she felt alone. Now, “I feel like I’m part of a community for the first time in my career,” she says. “A community that cares about me.”

She hasn’t missed a single Collective event. She brings team members. She reads every email, asks questions on the forum, and shares what she knows with others.

“It feels safe,” she explains. “I can be my messy self with you guys.”

When Rachel asks about her best advice, Sandra doesn’t hesitate: “Trust God, clean house, and help others.” Keep your side of the street clean. Look for opportunities to serve. Know you don’t have to control everything.

That philosophy carried a burned-out firm owner from trying to sell her practice to running it from a beach in Mexico. And she’s more proud of her work than she’s ever been.

Your Turn to Experiment

Sandra tried to sell her firm three times. Today, she wakes up to the sun rising over the Sea of Cortez and runs a thriving practice. Her transformation required questioning one assumption: What does a “real” accounting firm look like?

Here’s what she learned:

  • Physical space isn’t mental space. Without a building’s demands, Sandra became more present and effective. Her clients and team got a better version of her.
  • Remote doesn’t mean distant. One-on-one client visits, weekly team meetings that skip the work talk, book clubs with incentives, and company swag can build stronger connections than any conference room.
  • Make everything an experiment. Calling new initiatives “science experiments” removes the fear of failure. You’re just collecting data.
  • Nothing has to be permanent. You don’t have to commit to software, locations, or structures forever. Curiosity beats fear every time.

For every firm owner wondering if there’s a better way, Sandra’s story says yes. But only if you’re willing to run the experiment.

Listen to Sandra’s full conversation with Rachel and Marcus on Who’s Really the Boss? The details that don’t fit in an article make her story even more valuable for any firm considering remote work.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a national, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 26 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, mastermind groups, and one-on-one advisory.

Tax Season Is the Best Time to Build Your Referral Pipeline

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Rachel Dillon’s January looked nothing like it used to. On the latest episode of Who’s Really the Boss?, recorded at the start of February, she and her husband, Marcus, reflected on surviving the chaos of 1099 season, year-end financials, and the opening weeks of tax prep. But for Rachel, this January brought something different. Her calendar was booked solid with prospect meetings from the moment the holidays ended through the last day of the month.

“This year was a little bit different,” Rachel shares. “My calendar from as soon as we came back from the holidays all the way through the last day of January was booked pretty solid with meetings with prospective clients.”

This wasn’t always the case. In fact, just a few years ago, the Dillons learned a painful lesson about relying too heavily on digital marketing when a website rebrand wiped out their entire online presence overnight.

When a Rebrand Breaks Everything

Back in August 2022, Marcus and Rachel made what seemed like a smart strategic move. They renamed their firm from Dillon CPAs to Dillon Business Advisors. The old name was attracting the wrong leads, mostly people looking for quick tax returns with no interest in advisory services.

“We got a lot of leads and phone calls, but they were all tax-related,” Marcus explains. “We just would filter through those, try to upsell people into CAS services when at all possible. But it was just a lot of no.”

Along with the new name came a new logo and a brand-new website at dillonadvisors.com. There was just one problem. Nobody properly redirected the old domain to the new one. Overnight, every bit of search engine authority they’d built since 2011 vanished.

“We went from three to four online form fills and probably four to five or phone calls per week with new prospects reaching out about services to zero, none,” Rachel recalls. “No phone calls, and no form fills.”

The silence was so complete that they weren’t even getting spam. If your contact form isn’t attracting junk submissions, Rachel notes, “that’s 100% sure, you know your website is not working.”

They waited three months before questioning it, trusting their consulting team’s assurance that new sites take time to gain traction. When they finally investigated, they audited the site with three or four different vendors. The one that ultimately helped them rebuild provided data no one else had surfaced.

The experience taught them valuable lessons. Always redirect your old domain—it’s non-negotiable. Get multiple website audits, and don’t accept vague promises about improvements. And if your leads drop to zero overnight, don’t wait to investigate.

Where Quality Referrals Really Come From

That website disaster forced Marcus and Rachel to rebuild their lead generation around something more reliable than search rankings: human relationships. And it worked. Those January meetings didn’t materialize out of nowhere. They were the result of relationships nurtured throughout the previous year, especially in Q3 and Q4.

When Rachel analyzes where their best leads come from, the same sources keep appearing: current clients who love their team. Professional referral partners like financial advisors, attorneys, and bankers. Personal network connections from church, the neighborhood, and mastermind groups.

“Most likely to sign and quickest to sign are people referred by others who know us,” Rachel says. Whether it’s a long-term client, a team member, or a financial advisor who shares mutual clients with DBA, trust transfers through that existing relationship.

Marcus developed a specific approach to cultivating these relationships. He tells referral partners exactly what capacity the firm has available. “I’ve got room for one more CFO-level client” or “I’m building the roster for this team member you may have met.”

“Having those conversations with people, whether it’s through email or just one on one over the phone or at lunch or coffee, that’s always very helpful because then they have a connection and want to help you,” Marcus explains.

He also ends every coffee or lunch meeting with the same question: “Is there anybody that you think I should meet?”

The Secret to More Referrals: Total Transparency

Rachel discovered that telling referral partners exactly what will happen when they send someone your way makes the biggest difference in referral quality and volume.

“Referral partners want to know exactly what’s going to happen when they refer the person to your firm.  Who are they going to talk to? What timeline should I expect?” Rachel explains.

DBA has answered these questions so thoroughly that they created videos on their website walking through the process. Rachel can articulate the specific workflow. After an introduction, the prospect books a meeting with her through an automated calendar link. From that meeting, DBA requests access to QuickBooks Online and prior-year tax returns. Within five business days, the prospect receives pricing and recommendations.

Knowing their contact will have meaningful answers within one to two weeks makes referral partners far more confident about making introductions.

The firm also nurtures prospects between initial contact and the first meeting. Their website runs on HubSpot, which tracks what pages prospects visit and for how long. If there’s more than a week before the scheduled call, Rachel sends strategic content. That might be a blog article, the pricing page, or an explanation of their “Team of Three” service model.

“If they ask for payroll only, I want them to see those plans and pricing ahead of our conversation,” Rachel says. “Maybe they cancel because they don’t want all of that, or that pricing doesn’t align with what they think. That’s okay. That just means we haven’t wasted anyone’s time.”

How to Start Building Your Pipeline During Tax Season

Tax season might seem like the worst time to focus on business development. Marcus and Rachel disagree. They’ve identified several high-impact, low-effort strategies you can implement right now.

First, capture testimonials when gratitude is fresh. As returns go out and clients express appreciation, reply immediately. Either direct them to leave a Google review or ask permission to use their words as a testimonial. Marcus suggests creating a saved email signature with a direct link to your Google review page (the one that immediately pops up the rating box).

Second, document client wins before they disappear. Rachel recommends keeping a running list of specific outcomes, such as tax savings amounts, successful refinances, or time saved. “We forget those so quickly and easily, especially with the volume of work going in and out,” she notes. Set a goal for eight documented examples during the season.

Third, show up in person. Rachel recently spoke with three marketing professionals outside DBA, all of whom confirmed that in-person events outperform digital outreach for lead generation.

“Even though it feels like you should be doing something online that can cast out to hundreds or thousands of people, that doesn’t give the return that in-person events do,” Rachel explains.

The options go beyond formal networking events. Try study groups, chamber meetings, hobby gatherings, and church groups. Basically, anywhere your ideal clients naturally spend time. Marcus takes it further by inviting clients to events hosted by referral partners. The client gets continuing education credit, and Marcus stands in a room full of other ideal prospects.

If you think you don’t have time for this, Marcus has a pointed question. “Do you even have the capacity to serve new clients well?”

Start Where You Are

Building a referral pipeline doesn’t require a complete overhaul of your practice. It starts with small, deliberate actions that compound over time.

Rachel’s challenge is simple but powerful. “Start thinking about where your ideal clients hang out and how to get in those places. And if it’s not somewhere you necessarily want to be, then maybe reconsider your ideal client.”

Thriving firms don’t wait for leads to find them through Google searches or hope for referrals to materialize. They build relationships, educate partners, nurture prospects, and show up where their ideal clients already gather, even during the busiest seasons.

For Marcus and Rachel, that website disaster turned out to be a hidden blessing. It forced them to build something no algorithm change can destroy: a referral system built on trust, transparency, and genuine human connection.

Ready to hear the full conversation, including Marcus’s exact language for asking for introductions and Rachel’s specific HubSpot automations? Listen to the complete episode of Who’s Really the Boss?.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.

The Off-Season Work That Makes Tax Season Manageable

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Imagine it’s mid-March, and an accounting professional just left for spring break with her family. The business tax deadline is days away, and she’s at the beach.

Meanwhile, at firms across the country, accountants are settling in for another late night, sustained by the promise of a half-day Friday sometime in June (if they’re lucky). Blackout dates stretch from January through April, and the unspoken rule is that personal lives get shelved until after the deadline.

These two realities coexist within the same profession during the same tax season. The difference isn’t luck or lighter client loads; it’s deliberate design.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, owners of Dillon Business Advisors, have spent 15 years building a firm where tax season looks remarkably different from the industry norm. Their team of about 30 remote professionals works 36-hour weeks year-round, maintaining “Flex Fridays” even during peak filing season. Team members take spring break. And by mid-January, they’ve already filed dozens of returns because the real work happened months earlier.

During a recent episode of the Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast, the Dillons responded to a LinkedIn discussion that had been making the rounds. Their friend David Cristello asked, “How do you keep your team motivated during tax season?” When another friend jokingly suggested pizza parties—a tongue-in-cheek reference to the go-to perk at many firms—it sparked a deeper conversation.

The Foundation: Improvement Season Sets Up Success

When Marcus responded to that LinkedIn post about keeping teams motivated during tax season, his answer surprised some readers: “The hard work starts outside of tax season.”

It’s not a deflection. It’s the foundation that makes everything else at DBA possible. The firm operates on what they call “improvement season,” the period right after each tax deadline when the team identifies what went right and what went wrong and implements fixes before the next cycle.

The results speak for themselves. By mid-January 2025, DBA had already filed dozens of returns because the books were already closed. When you send financials to clients by the 15th of every month throughout the year, there’s nothing to catch up on in January.

This year-round engagement creates a ripple effect on tax season workload. The firm conducts tax projections in Q4, so clients already know roughly where they stand before the new year begins. When a business owner learns in October that they might owe $80,000 with their return, and the final number comes in at $50,000, that’s actually good news rather than a crisis. The cash flow conversation happened months ago, not in a panicked April phone call.

“We just try to minimize surprise as much as possible,” Marcus says.

But even with these systems in place, the Dillons are quick to point out they’re still learning. After acquiring two firms in 2025, they’re dealing with a higher volume of annual-only tax clients than they’ve had in years. This influx has highlighted some stark contrasts.

Take 1099 preparation. For monthly clients, the groundwork happens throughout the year. Client service managers review vendor payments quarterly and request W-9s as soon as they spot gaps. By January, there are usually only a handful of forms to chase down.

Annual-only clients are a different story. “We have no idea what’s been going on all year long,” Rachel explains. “We have no idea how many 1099s they’re going to need, if they’ve asked for W-9s or not, if they can get a hold of the people, if we can get a hold of the annual client.”

The experience has Marcus questioning whether they should even offer 1099 services to annual-only clients. “If you’re not engaging us for monthly recurring accounting services, you can do your own 1099s is kind of how I’m feeling at this point,” he says. Though he adds with a laugh that since team members probably listen to the podcast, they might hold him accountable for that change next year.

Team Structure That Creates Real Flexibility

Having year-round client touchpoints only works if you have the right people consistently delivering those services. At DBA, that happens through their “Team of Three” model, a structure Marcus calls “one of our biggest wins by far.”

For monthly clients, the model assigns three distinct roles to every client relationship. The Client Service Manager handles all communication and administrative tasks. The Client Controller focuses on preparation and review. The Client CFO provides complex review, planning conversations, and quality control.

This separation might sound simple, but the impact runs deep. When administrative tasks get pulled out and assigned to someone whose specific job is coordination, preparers and reviewers suddenly have hours back in their week.

“Breaking out the administrative parts and giving those to a professional who can handle them and communicate with clients gives a lot of time back to preparers and reviewers,” Rachel explains.

The same structure now applies to annual-only tax clients, a recent adaptation as they handle more of these relationships. The Tax Administrator manages all client communication, including sending organizers, accepting documents, generating engagement letters, and handling the back-end filing process. The Tax Controller handles preparation, often reviewing simpler returns. And their Director of Tax and Financial Planning provides oversight, education, and handles complex returns.

This structure creates essential coverage. When someone takes time off, two other team members understand each client relationship. Work doesn’t pile up while someone’s away.

The coverage philosophy shapes how DBA handles time-off requests. Before approaching leadership, team members coordinate with their Team of Three to ensure coverage. “You have to let your team of three know the dates and make sure it doesn’t put somebody else in a weird spot,” Marcus explains.

This approach makes possible what would seem impossible at traditional firms: client controllers taking spring break in March, right when business tax deadlines hit.

Rachel addresses the human reality behind these decisions. “When someone takes more than a day or two of PTO, it’s rare that they’re going alone somewhere. Most of the time, they’re traveling with their family, extended family, or friends for a special occasion.”

The Dillons understand this firsthand. They started taking spring break specifically because it was the only time their daughters’ swim practice and school schedules aligned. Expecting employees to forfeit those windows because of arbitrary blackout dates ignores how life actually works.

Marcus doesn’t mince words. “If you have blackout dates and you tell people they can’t live life during four months out of the year, they’re not going to leave your accounting firm for another accounting firm. They’re going to leave your accounting firm for another profession or another industry altogether.”

The team also maximizes efficiency through technology. Every deliverable, from financials to tax returns and projections, includes video commentary recorded through Vimeo. Clients watch explanations on their own schedule, rather than booking meetings just to review numbers. Zoom phones enable text messaging that looks direct but feeds into practice management systems, meeting clients where they communicate while maintaining boundaries.

Marcus notes that team members are often most productive right before vacation. “You are most efficient and effective right before you go out of town,” he observes. The team plans accordingly, with people getting ahead on work before time off rather than dumping it on colleagues.

Building a Culture Beyond Temporary Perks

The LinkedIn discussion that sparked this podcast episode revealed something telling about the profession. When asked how to keep teams motivated during tax season, someone jokingly suggested pizza parties, and everyone got the joke because nearly everyone has worked somewhere that tried to make up for brutal hours with free food.

“For us, as a remote team, that would cost a lot of money to send everybody pizza,” Marcus notes about their 30-person team. But cost isn’t the real issue. “Being in different roles over my career, knowing my voice is being heard means way more to me than a slice of pizza.”

At DBA, that philosophy takes concrete form. The firm maintains a shared spreadsheet where any team member can nominate a client for exit at any time. Leadership might see completed work and paid invoices, but they don’t witness the difficult phone calls or patterns of disrespect that make certain clients exhausting to serve.

This isn’t just lip service. In what they’re calling their “year of refinement” for 2026, DBA has shortened its tolerance for poor-fit clients. “In the past, we would give people a couple of different opportunities to tell us no,” Marcus says. “Where we’re at today as a business, it’s just one time to tell us no before we exit that client relationship.”

The same philosophy of actually listening to the team’s needs shaped their benefits evolution. Half-day Fridays started as a summer perk to give back time worked during tax season. Then it expanded to most of the year. Now it runs year-round, including during tax season. A full-time employee at DBA works 36 hours, not 40.

“We didn’t want to take it away from people,” Marcus says simply. “A lot of clients aren’t around on Friday afternoons either.”

PTO evolved similarly. In 2025, the firm extended paid time off to part-time team members, in proportion to their hours. But tracking PTO across multiple systems created an administrative burden that defeated the purpose. “Ultimately, you want people to use their PTO and have time off, not necessarily be worried about tracking their PTO,” Marcus explains.

Effective January 1, 2026, DBA moved to unlimited PTO with guardrails around approval and booking limits. The policy includes part-time team members.

Marcus addresses the common criticism head-on. “I know it’s been discussed that people take less time off with unlimited PTO. That is not our intention at all.”

For individual tax clients who might otherwise only appear at filing time, DBA offers its Tax Advisory Plan (TAP). This monthly recurring service includes tax preparation plus two annual projections, one mid-year and one year-end, each with a consultation. Clients get introduced to their dedicated team, so when questions come up, someone familiar with their situation responds without hours of research.

“We have solved for that with our tax advisory plan,” Rachel says. The service transforms annual relationships into year-round engagement, turning filing-time scrambles into predictable workflows.

“Allowing your team more freedom to go home at a normal time, every day and all year long, is going to go a lot further than a one-time meal or party,” Rachel says, capturing what actually matters to team members.

Taking Control of Your Firm’s Tax Season

The Dillons freely admit they’re not perfect. They’re dealing with integration challenges from two recent acquisitions. They’re still figuring out whether to offer certain services to annual-only clients. Marcus is currently working from a poorly insulated sunroom in an Airbnb because their Fort Worth house renovation isn’t finished. But their approach offers a blueprint built on three principles that any firm can adapt.

Start improvement season immediately after tax season

The work that makes January through April manageable happens in the months after the previous deadline. When clients know their tax position from Q4 projections and books stay current monthly, there’s nothing to scramble over in March.

Structure teams for coverage, not just efficiency

The Team of Three model distributes work and creates redundancy. When someone leaves for spring break, two others understand every client relationship. Breaking out administrative from technical work maximizes everyone’s strengths.

Listen to what teams actually want

Sustainable practices beat temporary perks every time. Team members want their concerns heard and acted on. They want to attend their kids’ events, travel when their families can travel, and not have their lives dictated by arbitrary deadlines.

“We’re not up against the CPA firm down the street anymore. It’s a different ballgame,” Marcus says, putting the stakes in perspective. Talented professionals have options beyond public accounting, and firms that don’t adapt will lose team members to other industries.

Listen to the full conversation on the Who’s Really the BOSS? podcast for additional insights about managing life transitions during busy season, specific tools for client communication, and how the Dillons are applying these principles during their own busy season. As Rachel notes at the end, “All of these things eliminate the need for staying at the office until midnight doing actual work because all you’ve done all day is put out fires.”

Tax season doesn’t have to control your firm. But escaping that cycle requires doing the hard work when everyone else is taking a breather. The firms having calm tax seasons aren’t lucky; they’re prepared.

Listen to the complete episode to hear how DBA is navigating tax season, managing team growth from recent acquisitions, and keeping their Flex Friday promise even in the thick of filing season.

Rachel and Marcus Dillon, CPA, own a Texas-based, remote client accounting and advisory services firm, Dillon Business Advisors, with a team of 15 professionals. Their latest organization, Collective by DBA, supports and guides accounting firm owners and leaders with firm resources, education, and operational strategy through community, groups, and one-on-one advisory.